National Day of Silence - Page 3 - United Bimmer Community

**Spieluhr** · 05-10-2005, 02:54 AM

Chrisdoesntknow you make very good points.

and hoppy. you say that gays are unnatural because they cannot reproduce w/o the help of technology. ok, valid point. but what about men and women who are sterile, what about men and women who never even get to the age where they can reproduce due to a fatal illness? are they not welcome to be "natural" in the world, are men and women who cannot successfully reproduce not allowed to marry?

and i can see your point of the church has to decide if it will marry gay couples, but that's where church and state get mixed together and i think that is a big mistake.

**Torque** · 05-10-2005, 05:52 AM

If I ever see a married gay, I will make sure I strangle him with my own bare hands.

**Hoppy** · 05-10-2005, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Spieluhr

Chrisdoesntknow you make very good points.

and hoppy. you say that gays are unnatural because they cannot reproduce w/o the help of technology. ok, valid point. but what about men and women who are sterile, what about men and women who never even get to the age where they can reproduce due to a fatal illness? are they not welcome to be "natural" in the world, are men and women who cannot successfully reproduce not allowed to marry?

and i can see your point of the church has to decide if it will marry gay couples, but that's where church and state get mixed together and i think that is a big mistake.

i didnt say they shouldnt be here. but they do fail are the goal of life. procreation. to me" marriage" is a relegious thing. should gays couples get the same tax breaks and the rest of the stuff straights gets. yes, not because i believe in gays rights but because i feel its the nice thing to do.

for the sterile people. last time i checked natural sterility isnt taht common. its introduced by exposure to chemicals, radiation, and inbreeding. and trying and failing i still feel is better then being gay.
asfor people who die before being sexualy active... well they died didnt they? thats a good thing from an evolutionary stand point. there is less chance to pass on thier defective genes. also look at it from a ratio.

100% gays= no kids .01%? straights( those sterile)= no kids....

humans today have basicly slowed evolution. the weak no longer die off because medicine keeps them alive. unfavorable genes are not removed from the gene pool because of technology. evolution is brought about by random combineing of genes during conception. not mutation. more later. i got to go to class for final.

**Spieluhr** · 05-10-2005, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoppy

humans today have basicly slowed evolution. the weak no longer die off because medicine keeps them alive. unfavorable genes are not removed from the gene pool because of technology. evolution is brought about by random combineing of genes during conception. not mutation. more later. i got to go to class for final.

that goes off on a whole nother tangent, but your right there. evolution comes from the best and the brightest surviving the best in an environment. as humans we adapt our environment to us like you said, so still even the unfit can survive.

i can also understand how the christian church will not allow the marriage of gay people as it is written that the practice of homosexuality is a sin. does anyone know the passage in the Bible where this is?

**xsperf** · 05-11-2005, 01:03 AM

hey i didnt read half of the stuff, but i do believe someone said something along the lines of "all men were created equal" and in that case they should have equal rights

ok, all mean were CREATED equal. everyone was CREATED equal, and some turn into retards, and some turn into good people. For instance, all men were created equal. Lets say a murder is born. Right, he is as good as everyone else, right? Then, he kills 100 people. Ok, they take him to trial, he servers his time, blah blah blah,a nd then he is free again. If he wanted to go buy a gun, would you let him?

**Spieluhr** · 05-11-2005, 01:41 AM

^ no, actions like murder are when you give up your rights and equality.

**EnvyM3** · 05-11-2005, 08:33 AM

Gay butt sex

**komodo** · 05-11-2005, 09:12 AM

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Gay butt sex

Well put. haha

PIITB is usually directed toward females.

**xsperf** · 05-11-2005, 02:26 PM

actions like murder are when you give up your rights, and in my opinion, the action of being gay is giving up your right ot get married because marriage is between man and woman. that was its original intent, reguardless of whether or not it has been changed

**beem** · 05-11-2005, 06:13 PM

here are a couple bible verses:

my mom wrote a whole article/paper about it a little bit ago..

Romans 1:26,27
26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error.

Leviticus 18:22
22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. 23 And you shall not lie with any beast and defile yourself with it, neither shall any woman give herself to a beast to lie with it: it is perversion. 24 "Do not defile yourselves by any of these things, for by all these the nations I am casting out before you defiled themselves;

**Spieluhr** · 05-11-2005, 06:45 PM

thanks beem, that was very helpful.

**Torque** · 05-11-2005, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by beem

here are a couple bible verses:

my mom wrote a whole article/paper about it a little bit ago..

Romans 1:26,27
26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error.

Leviticus 18:22
22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. 23 And you shall not lie with any beast and defile yourself with it, neither shall any woman give herself to a beast to lie with it: it is perversion. 24 "Do not defile yourselves by any of these things, for by all these the nations I am casting out before you defiled themselves;

Ah, this must be why I'm not getting any... 'cause I'm a fuckin' beast.

**komodo** · 05-11-2005, 11:34 PM

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Ah, this must be why I'm not getting any... 'cause I'm a fuckin' beast.

hahaha!

**///Milk** · 05-11-2005, 11:38 PM

homosexuals don't deserve extra rights
thats bullshit
just cuz they fuck the same sex doesn't give them any special attention

**Spieluhr** · 05-12-2005, 12:19 AM

^^^ did you misunderstand what was being talked about? they want equality, not to make themselves better or get any more attention or rights.