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I do not see why someone would say "I am...." if they have lived in America their whole lives... especially the ones that have parents, and grandparents who lived in the U.S. their whole lives... seems... kind of stupid?
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Originally Posted by brien4787
I do not see why someone would say "I am...." if they have lived in America their whole lives... especially the ones that have parents, and grandparents who lived in the U.S. their whole lives... seems... kind of stupid?
I see your point, but you gotta understand that the USA is a melting pot. The only true originals here were driven out by our ancestors, but they themselves weren't "Americans". So, true, we whom were born here are Americans by the definition of place of birth since 1776 (before 1776, "we" were considered British Colonist since 1586 (Roanoke Settlement)), however, since our ancestry is still rather new, genetically speaking, having not had the ability to inter-mix our gene pools (since the late 19th and early 20th centuries from where the migratory population exploded) our ancestry still roots back to europe and other continents. I myself, though born here in NJ am the first US born member of my family, which, dates back to biblical times. My parents were both born in Europe, imigrated here in the 70's, and I was born in 1981. So yes, I am an American, I am from a long line of Hungarians that, like mentioned earlier, date to far earlier times than the history of our current nation.
So to answer your question, no, it is not stupid to assume a nationality other than your place of birth. However, to sound balanced, if your ancestry can be traced to the beginings of the United States, then, I would assume that being called an American [period] does justify your statement even though most were of British ancestry.
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I have some lessons to refresh my german, I am very rusty.
my ancestry would make me german-polish, my mother was german and my father was also german polish. my family didn't come over until 1911, I can't trace ancestry any further because some idiot set fire to europe in '45.
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I see your point, but you gotta understand that the USA is a melting pot. The only true originals here were driven out by our ancestors, but they themselves weren't "Americans". So, true, we whom were born here are Americans by the definition of place of birth since 1776 (before 1776, "we" were considered British Colonist since 1586 (Roanoke Settlement)), however, since our ancestry is still rather new, genetically speaking, having not had the ability to inter-mix our gene pools (since the late 19th and early 20th centuries from where the migratory population exploded) our ancestry still roots back to europe and other continents. I myself, though born here in NJ am the first US born member of my family, which, dates back to biblical times. My parents were both born in Europe, imigrated here in the 70's, and I was born in 1981. So yes, I am an American, I am from a long line of Hungarians that, like mentioned earlier, date to far earlier times than the history of our current nation.
So to answer your question, no, it is not stupid to assume a nationality other than your place of birth. However, to sound balanced, if your ancestry can be traced to the beginings of the United States, then, I would assume that being called an American [period] does justify your statement even though most were of British ancestry.
Dough
I could understand if one were to relate with their ancestry through culture, but truth is, that is usually lost to a great degree from generation to generation. I see this from experience through friends.
You speak of the "melting pot," which is spoken about so much. I do not see the "melting pot" as effective anymore, minus skin colors, which mean nothing. Skin color is not race, and there are no multiple human races, there is only one. I believe American Culture, in general, is defined. Yes, there is variation of language, religion, ect., but this is part of our culture.
Maybe I used the wrong word (stupid)... I am thinking, pointless.
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