"Under God" in Pledge declared unconstitutional - United Bimmer Community

**komodo** · 09-15-2005, 11:31 AM

Ugh, when will they stop?

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/...-pledge15.html

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September 15, 2005

SAN FRANCISCO -- A federal judge declared the reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools unconstitutional Wednesday, a decision that could put the issue on track for another round of Supreme Court arguments.

The case was brought by the same atheist whose previous battle against the pledge was rejected last year on procedural grounds.

U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton ruled the pledge's reference to one nation ''under God'' violates schoolchildren's right to be ''free from a coercive requirement to affirm God.''

Karlton said he was bound by precedent of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which in 2002 ruled in favor of atheist Michael Newdow that the pledge is unconstitutional in public schools.

The Supreme Court dismissed the case last year, saying Newdow lacked standing because he did not have custody of his elementary school daughter, whom he sued on behalf of.

Order affects 3 school districts

Newdow, an attorney and a doctor, filed an identical case on behalf of three unnamed parents and their children. Karlton said those families have the right to sue.

Karlton, ruling in Sacramento, said he would sign a restraining order preventing the recitation of the pledge at the school districts in Sacramento County where the plaintiffs' children attend. The order wouldn't extend beyond those districts unless it is affirmed by the 9th Circuit, in which case it could apply to nine western states, or the Supreme Court, which would apply to all states. AP

**Hoppy** · 09-15-2005, 11:57 AM

fuck that. one more reason i hate the faggot states of california and massachuessetes ( i fucking live here and dont care to learn how to spell it. thats how much i care) god damn hippies....incoherant ranting

**donald1476** · 09-15-2005, 12:07 PM

This has a lot to do with homosexuality Hoppy, you're right -- which is surprising considering you can't even spell Massachusetts.

witeshark · 09-15-2005, 12:58 PM

As soon as I heard it in the news... All I could think was how pathetic and asinine!

**xsperf** · 09-15-2005, 02:10 PM

pssh aint no big deal to me, i dont even say it anyway, and neither do 90% of other people.. seriously the people that say it, ill bet they dont even know what they are saying its just a routine

**catalyst** · 09-15-2005, 02:25 PM

What is with people going to these huge extents to change something so stupid and insignificant..

Government should have absolutly nothing to do with religion though.

nick_318is · 09-15-2005, 03:49 PM

Next are we gonna have to change all the money floating around the US cause i'm pretty it all says in god we trust

**komodo** · 09-15-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nick_318is

Next are we gonna have to change all the money floating around the US cause i'm pretty it all says in god we trust

Anyone offended by carrying around such money should immediately give it to me for.... ahem... removal.

**Chris** · 09-15-2005, 04:13 PM

thats fucking bullshit. we need to go rape this guys wife. lol

**xsperf** · 09-15-2005, 06:39 PM

he doesnt have a wife, hes gay, i thought we already discussed that

**Chris** · 09-15-2005, 06:51 PM

then we'll go rape his sex doll

**xsperf** · 09-15-2005, 07:03 PM

yea, lol no wonder he doesnt have custody of his children

**donald1476** · 09-21-2005, 04:04 AM

I pledge to the bump