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Old 05-28-2005, 03:23 PM   #1
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Seeing as how a bunch of mambers all graduated I was wondering what ya'll want to study at college or do in life....

Best 4 year Degree Jobs:


I just wrote a paper on top professions in Urban environments...

1. Accounting in the Finance Sector (stay away from Economics, or a regular general Finance B.A degree=waste of time- do a B.S degree in Finance/Eco instead or just do a B.S in Accounting-it's be similar work load with better pay off)

2. Engineering (Civil, Computer, Electrical) (Stay away from "Computer Science, B.S degree"-no one will hire you unless you move to Bangladesh. Do Computer Engineering, B.S instead. According to my research...it's more hands on, flexible, pays well, has more room for advancement than any other computer based job position. Also least likely that you will lose job to 10 cent an hour worker in Bombay!)

3. Health Related (anything that involves the treatment of people who cant treat themselves from Medical Waste Disposal to Brain Surgeon)
4. Social Work (more openings than seekers/also lowest paid, hardest working job)
5. Legal, LAW: Note here...don't just do Law but try to specialize in something like Entertainment Law, Litgation and Wills and Estate are the top specialities that pay the best and will have plenty of work-Stay away from general, civil, and real estate law.... these specialities either pay nothing, work you the hardest, or no jobs in that area right now)

Best Paying jobs and fields to get in with HS Diploma:

1. Construction- If you do this right, meet all the right people, work hard, take certifications, progress fast...4 years in this field can potentially have you working as a Project Manager making $80,000 to $100,000+ a year! Even without the PM title or luck you can advance into work that'll pay you $50,000 average after 5 years.

2. Security- tricky one...but my research says this field is getting hot!
Still Scratching head on this and thinking about how America changed after 9-11-01!

3. Inventor- unless you are Einstien smart and Bill Gates Lucky good luck....

4.Writer/Poet/Actor/Rapper/DJ/Comedian....again unless you didn't get shot 9 times and didn't live in Brooklyn, Queens, Compton, ATL, Da Bronx....good luck to you. Also Media & Communication majors need not apply.

5. Caterer/Planner-unless you are a woman with connections goodluck...

6. Cityworker/Garbage/Postal/Janitorial- Best Benifits, low to so so pay....not much advancement....


Plan B's to TOP Professions:

Don't have Medical School School grades: Try Dental School/Physical Therapy/ Med Lab Sciences - These fields pay well. Nursing, however, is equally as tough for alot of different reasons as medical school.

Don't want to waste 4 years: get a 2 year associates degree in Engineering Tech (the are like a dozen types of techs from Automotive to computer), or Culinary Arts, Para legal...etc....
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Old 05-28-2005, 08:21 PM   #3
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Since a question was asked in the title on whats your goals.

I still havent graduated highschool yet but pretty much 70% of my goals have already been completed.

I have a job at a BMW dealer
There sending me away next week for training school

Only major goal I still need to complete is attend tech school, which Ive already been accpeted and finally become a master tech. Ive been working 2 years at a dealer already so I guess its about time they send me to the BMW training classes. To bad they dont give us loaner cars to drive there anymore because driving a new 3 or 5 series down to maryland (im In jersey) would be pretty nice.
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Right now I am at Cal Poly University in San Luis Obispo California. We are ranked very high for public undergrad schools in the Engineering feild. I am studying Mechanical Engineering, and hope to get into the racing field once I graduate. I will most likely go back to Grad school after some time in industry. I hope to have my company pay for my Grad school cause it will be very expensive.

After Grad school I hope to get a job with an F1 team for a few years in their engine program. Once I get tired of being in Europe and traveling around, I will probably come back to the States and get a job with a manufacturer out her designing engines and engine subsystems.

If I do fulfill my goal of working with F1 I don't think I will have too much difficulty working for a german manufacturer. I do not have much desire to work for an American company, I will settle for Japanese, but would much rather be picked up by German (of course my top choice is BMW)

So that will bring me about to retirement. If all goes according to plan (I am on track right now and already have many connections for being a first year at college) I should be looking to retire around 40 or so. I don't think I could spend my life doing anything more exciting.
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Old 05-28-2005, 10:15 PM   #5
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I should be looking to retire around 40 or so. I don't think I could spend my life doing anything more exciting.
And what would you like to do for your Second career? Retirement at 40 after a career like that will leave you literaly dying of boredom within a couple of years.

My comfortable retirement duration seems to max out at 6 months. Then it is time for a new career or a restart of an old one someplace new.
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This week: Get a call back from Paccar to work in their new engine test cells here in North Wash, as an intern. (Paccar develops tech for Kenworth and Peterbuilt.) then: finish my automotive engineering degree at Western Wash Univ. in the Vehicle Research Institute. Then: work for Paccar for a few years. then go back to grad school and get an MS in Civil engineering and work as a developer for retirement.

until then finish the turbo project

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Well...I already have a very useless B.A degree in Creative Writing, currently working on a MS in Urban Planning (which I'm dropping out of), about to transfer into an Environmental Law/Land Use Planning JD/MUP joint program in Florida State Uni....

but I was also looking to go back and do BS/MS in Environmental Engineering/specializing in Land Use and Water Planning at FSU as well.

Both the Law and The BS/MS degree yield the same job availabilty potential and potential pay. But I work at a Law Firm now and I'm very turned off by the Law field and would prefer the empirical aspects of Planning...so I may save my self alot of tuition dough and do a MS in Engineering instead.

My "lottery ticket idea" is trying to get one of my manuscripts published and translated into a screenplay someday...

I'm also not one of those..."I want to retire by 30 and do nothing the rest of my life kind of folks"...I think this planet is too fucked up right now to not benefit from my talents...

plus that would be boring as shit...and I'd be more incline to start my own business....and not work as hard over retiring with a pension or savings.
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Fuck that shit Del. Just get a degree in Buiness, get a job in High Tech sales and make six figs your 2nd year of work
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Fuck that shit Del. Just get a degree in Buiness, get a job in High Tech sales and make six figs your 2nd year of work
Wow. Sounds like a plan!
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Fuck that shit Del. Just get a degree in Buiness, get a job in High Tech sales and make six figs your 2nd year of work
It takes a ME FIRST AND FOREVER driven attitude to do that. Most people fail at creating/maintaing that attitude.

Maybe 1 or 2 in a hundred who try hit that level and don't burn out early.

The rest turn in to Telemarketers
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business and managment degress is your best bet and gettingi n the door somewhere and work your ass of and you will move up... ive worked at chicago title insurance for 2 years and have alreayd been promoted a few times... its all about work ethics in the business world (to a certain point... say 160,000 a year) after that you usually need a well known name, or some huge degree, that in some cases didnt help you at all.

My dad for instance never set foot on a college campus, failed his 10th grade year, because he was working 3 jobs, hes a very motavated person and does any job fast, right, and with heart (just like his son ) anyways point being he never set foot anywhere near a collegel campus started off in Title insurance doing exactly what idid, worked 8-14 hours a day all through his 20s learned as much as he could... now he is one of the most important aspects to the company, out of the 30,000 employees him and 119 others were selcted as the future leaders of the nationa wide company (fidelity) right now he manages in whatcom county washington making somewhere above 100,000 a year. after that he will move up to something along regional manager (in charge of washington oregon and idaho, after t hat who knows, he will probably want to stay put at that as he will be one of those on a plane everyday going to different offices type people) anyways if you can work hard business is a good place career. I choose title insurance because it is a lot of research and problem solving and good judgement, i love doing all these things. Next year i am not attending college, i have a great job waiting for me, however i will be slowly taking classes at a local community college, or tech school to get me trained in different areas, and slowly work towards completing a nice "assernal" of classes that will help me in my future.

Anyways just trying to promote the business world some

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business and managment degress is your best bet and gettingi n the door somewhere and work your ass of and you will move up... ive worked at chicago title insurance for 2 years and have alreayd been promoted a few times... its all about work ethics in the business world (to a certain point... say 160,000 a year) after that you usually need a well known name, or some huge degree, that in some cases didnt help you at all.

My dad for instance never set foot on a college campus, failed his 10th grade year, because he was working 3 jobs, hes a very motavated person and does any job fast, right, and with heart (just like his son ) anyways point being he never set foot anywhere near a collegel campus started off in Title insurance doing exactly what idid, worked 8-14 hours a day all through his 20s learned as much as he could... now he is one of the most important aspects to the company, out of the 30,000 employees him and 119 others were selcted as the future leaders of the nationa wide company (fidelity) right now he manages in whatcom county washington making somewhere above 100,000 a year. after that he will move up to something along regional manager (in charge of washington oregon and idaho, after t hat who knows, he will probably want to stay put at that as he will be one of those on a plane everyday going to different offices type people) anyways if you can work hard business is a good place career. I choose title insurance because it is a lot of research and problem solving and good judgement, i love doing all these things. Next year i am not attending college, i have a great job waiting for me, however i will be slowly taking classes at a local community college, or tech school to get me trained in different areas, and slowly work towards completing a nice "assernal" of classes that will help me in my future.

Anyways just trying to promote the business world some

David


David Exactly my point....
My Dad had a PhD in Mathmatics and got degrees from the best schools in London and America and he's a Math Prof. who makes about $70,000 to $80,000 a year

My Mother has an M.S in Public health and a B.S in Environmental Science and makes $65,000 to $70,000 a year working in a sweet directorial spot at City Hall in NYC...

and his Dad without a HS Diploma or College Degree is making more than my parents salary combined....

That is why America is a great country......and also tragic at the same time...because for our generation everyone makes us feel like shit if we don't spend thousands of dollars for an Ivy League education!



Hey you could also look at Rappers/Movie Stars who make $20 million dollars a movie or CD and most dropped out of HS (50 Cent, Biggie Smalls, Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt.....and the list can go on and on and on!)
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^^del finally someone that agrees with me.... its so great im at work and tell people im not PLANNIng to attend college next year, which does not mean i wont take some claases later i will! anyways they tell me i wont ever go back and be successful.. what is funny is i am 18 and already do their job and they are in their 40s. They make 30,000 grand a year and i do their job at 18, and they spend thousans of dollars on college.. i just dont get how someone like that can say college honestly helped them that much... i know for some it helps them mature and see life in a new way... so maybe that is what they meant... but ive been working my whole life and know what it takes to be successful and will be successful in my life, I am a Morris and we dont have it any other way... (its a weird family thing haha)

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