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03-24-2006, 03:32 AM
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Name: Cellardoor
Title: Senior Member
Status: Offline
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: RI
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Your Ride: 95 M3
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new suspension?
Hey guys,
so im thinking about getting new suspension for the M soon, the current suspension is getting a little sloppy and i think it is starting to rub on one side. so im asking what would be a nice set up, i thinking a race set up since comfort isnt a concern for me in the car  so anyone with any advice of companys and mayb prices i would appreciate the heads up  ! thanks in advance!
-Hutch
ps sorry if this is worded poorly its 3 30 and i have been up since 7 haha.
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03-24-2006, 09:57 AM
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Name: xsperf
Title: United Baller
Status: Offline
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Syracuse, NY
Your Ride: 95 325is
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konis, H & Rs, bilsteins, they are all good
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03-24-2006, 10:03 AM
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Name: c1apton
Title: Upgraded Member
Status: Offline
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Pompano Beach,Fl /Edina,Mn
Your Ride: 93 E34
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Originally Posted by xsperf
konis, H & Rs, bilsteins, they are all good
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As "X" mentioned they're all good but shop closely re: Konis. They make a couple of different grades and the "base line" units are a glorified stock units (just compare shaft/piston size) I had Konis & just replaced w/Bilsteins sports and the diff was night & day.
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03-24-2006, 03:10 PM
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Name: Storamin
Title: Road Kill
Status: Offline
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Your Ride: 1994 325is, 2000 z3 2.3
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03-24-2006, 10:18 PM
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Name: Rooz
Title: Moderator
Status: Offline
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC
Your Ride: 2004 ZHP & 2002 330i
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11-13-2006, 10:33 PM
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Name: B_w.
Title: Upgraded Member
Status: Offline
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Edmonton
Your Ride: turbo e36
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i really like my bilstein sport shocks with h&r sport springs but if i had to do it all over again i would go with a nice set of coil overs. probably from ground control.
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11-14-2006, 01:28 AM
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Name: DEATH2000
Title: The UB Pimp Masta!!
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Coil overs would be kool. I have Konis and there pretty decent.I like em.
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11-14-2006, 10:04 AM
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Name: mullethunter3
Title: Upgraded Member
Status: Offline
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Saint Louis / RollaMO
Your Ride: 318is, Suzuki GS500
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I love my Bilstein Sports. I can't imagine what the Bilstein Race setup would be like though... :drool
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11-15-2006, 09:01 AM
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Name: 94bmw325i
Title: Hellrot325
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Newark, Delaware
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Your Ride: 94 bmw 325i, 97 vw golf
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Ground control coilover setup with all the supports, etc. Like rtab shimmy's. You would also need camber plates, but thats ok  Man that thing would have ///Mazing handling, ok so that was corny lol.
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11-15-2006, 11:11 PM
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Name: B_w.
Title: Upgraded Member
Status: Offline
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Edmonton
Your Ride: turbo e36
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Originally Posted by 94bmw325i
Ground control coilover setup with all the supports, etc. Like rtab shimmy's. You would also need camber plates, but thats ok  Man that thing would have ///Mazing handling, ok so that was corny lol.
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i wish i spent the extra coin and didd that
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11-16-2006, 02:52 AM
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Name: Turbodefrost
Title: Senior Member
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Bellingham, Washington
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Your Ride: 1996 328is
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yeah i think for the most part people who got shocks and springs wish they woul've just put in a little more money for some coilovers. I'm really happy with my Bilstein sport/ H&R race setup. but camber plates, adjustable control arms are a must. and yes you should definitely replace the RSM's FSM's, ltabs, rtabs and so on and so forth
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11-16-2006, 11:42 AM
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Name: nick_318is
Title: Road Kill
Status: Offline
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Detroit, MI, I Heart E30s
Your Ride: 1991 318is (e30 m42), 2007 Mazdaspeed 3
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Sorry to hijack we should get storamin back on here.
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11-16-2006, 12:05 PM
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Name: mullethunter3
Title: Upgraded Member
Status: Offline
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Saint Louis / RollaMO
Your Ride: 318is, Suzuki GS500
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Where did he go? I miss him hating everyone that owned an automatic.
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11-16-2006, 01:18 PM
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Name: B_w.
Title: Upgraded Member
Status: Offline
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Edmonton
Your Ride: turbo e36
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Originally Posted by mullethunter3
Where did he go? I miss him hating everyone that owned an automatic.
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i am pretty sure i can fill that role  auto's suck fucking ass!!! 
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11-16-2006, 02:22 PM
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Name: nick_318is
Title: Road Kill
Status: Offline
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Detroit, MI, I Heart E30s
Your Ride: 1991 318is (e30 m42), 2007 Mazdaspeed 3
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He was banned, i miss the rants and auto hating as well it always made for some good entertainment.
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11-21-2006, 02:30 PM
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Name: ///M Power
Title: Senior Member
Status: Offline
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO | Redondo Beach, CA
Your Ride: 95 m3 turbo
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coilovers + corner balance
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11-22-2006, 09:28 PM
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Name: B_w.
Title: Upgraded Member
Status: Offline
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Edmonton
Your Ride: turbo e36
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Originally Posted by ///M Power
coilovers + corner balance
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what do you mean by corner balance?
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11-25-2006, 01:34 PM
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Name: ///M Power
Title: Senior Member
Status: Offline
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO | Redondo Beach, CA
Your Ride: 95 m3 turbo
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Originally Posted by B_w.
what do you mean by corner balance?
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Basically you can adjust your suspension ride height enough at each corner so that essentially each corner is acting as if it's holdign the same amount of weight. You want to get a perfect balance between all four corners. Some race shops near you should have the scales. Have them do it, or if you got a lot of time on your hands and feel liek havign some funw ith some friend go ahead anf borrow/rent them from them.
Think of it this way. There's no way all four corner of your car weigh the saem at each tire. So you put all four on the scales and find the weight at each corner. I've never doen this but you need to essentially take all the numbers and calculate out what weight should be added at each corner adn what weight should be removed at each corner to get them all to be the same. The catch is you never add or remove weight. Instead you hypothetically find how much weight must be removed/gained. Then you slightly adjust the ride height at the corespondign corners.
Each corner acts similar at it's caddy-corner (front left has same weight characteristics and rear right).
So let's say your front left and rear right need to pick up some weight and your frotn right and rear left need to lose some weight. Essentially (if i got this right in theory), So if you lower the ride height a hair on the front right or rear left, then there's less weight on both of those and more weight balanced onto the front left and rear right. It's hard to see in writing but it makes sense if you really think about it.
A good analogy someone told me long ago was imagine a giant box that four people of equal weight/muscle/height/build were carrying. Each person is hold a fourth of the weight. If the back left corner were to lower just a little bit, that would put more weight on the back right and front left corners. I was always a little confused as to why the back left corner never gained weight, btu im assuming it has a lot to do with the rigidity of the car. Thats why sometimes you see a car that could essentially drive on 3 wheels (albeit not well).
I don't have the exact science down and i've defintely never had personal experience with it (damn h&R/Bilstein), but as soon as I get coilovers it would be the first thing i'd do.
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11-25-2006, 01:39 PM
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Name: ///M Power
Title: Senior Member
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO | Redondo Beach, CA
Your Ride: 95 m3 turbo
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I'm sure I missed/confused a few things there, but I googled this and I think it should help clarify things: http://www.scottgood.com/jsg/blog.ns...ks/SGOD-6B9PFW
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11-25-2006, 02:16 PM
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Name: devinwwu
Title: Senior Member
Status: Offline
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Auburn, WA
Your Ride: 2006 Yamaha R6 Raven; `90 325i brillianrot; `92 325i alpineweiss
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thanks for explaining. I have coilovers on my e30 and couldn't be happier! Find out what the manufacturer recommends for your type of driving in terms of spring rates and add 50lbs to make it a little edgier. Mine is not too ridgid and handles like it is on friggin rails!
I am corner weighting mine as soon as i get a chance to see the difference between stock and m30 swap e30s as well as dial in my suspension.
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