Cop in Sheeps' Clothing - United Bimmer Community

**c1apton** · 05-30-2006, 11:02 AM

CNN just showed a report from West Palm Beach, Fl of a cop posing as a homeless guy on a corner of a busy intersection. He stands there like a "panhandler" with a sign - "can you spare $183.00?" That's the fine if you run through the light/intersection he's monitoring. He got 75 people in one hour. He has counterparts on cycles down the road he calls when he spots car(s) blasting through intersection when light changes. I'm to lazy but there's a video link at CNN.com

**Hoppy** · 05-30-2006, 12:09 PM

haha thats sweet. it pisses me off when people run lights. i mean we all just miss the yellow, but ive seen people who dont even care what color it is

**celsdogg** · 05-30-2006, 12:24 PM

^^^ yeah, i have been increasingly noticing that myself.

its bad at the intersection right before my apt complex. they have a green arrow to turn left in front of me, and after theres, mine will go green arrow for a left turn, i start, but then someone from the otherside is still coming. . . argh!

**CAPiTUL** · 05-30-2006, 12:36 PM

That is entrapment, to some extent.

The ideal function of the police is to PREVENT crime. NOT sit there and let somebody commit the crime and then cite them. Factually, if that cop were in a patrol car, more people would be aware and check their speed, be more cautious at lights, etc.

witeshark · 05-30-2006, 01:00 PM

I can sorta understand it. Here in South Florida the running red has gotten worse lately

**Chris** · 05-30-2006, 02:01 PM

from my understanding, people in miami stop on red if they have time, which they never do.

**celsdogg** · 05-30-2006, 02:09 PM

^^^ lol, to them, its a *suggested* stop!

**Hoppy** · 05-30-2006, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CAPiTUL

That is entrapment, to some extent.

The ideal function of the police is to PREVENT crime. NOT sit there and let somebody commit the crime and then cite them. Factually, if that cop were in a patrol car, more people would be aware and check their speed, be more cautious at lights, etc.

nope, entrapement is where you have no other reasonable option but to break the law. youd be surprised, may speed trap set ups are a radar car, who clocks you and call you in to the signal officers who signal you to slow down and normaly down the road is a persuit car.

the role of an office is that of order maintenance( being seen and hence detering many crimes)
responsive ( responding to 911 calls and things he observes)
and investigation

on a side note, why should the presence of an uniformed officer be nessasary to the punishment of criminals? i mean i like ideas like this, and opose ideas like traffic cameras so im just interested in your, or anyone elses opinion

Storamin · 05-30-2006, 06:06 PM

i don't stop for red lights after midnight.

**celsdogg** · 05-30-2006, 06:07 PM

^^^ i think i will be staying away from pittsburgh

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Originally Posted by Hoppy

on a side note, why should the presence of an uniformed officer be nessasary to the punishment of criminals? i mean i like ideas like this, and opose ideas like traffic cameras so im just interested in your, or anyone elses opinion

im aganist traffic cameras too. i read that in montgomery county (here in MD), areas where they have put traffic camera, accidents have increased by 40%. also, they always misidentify the subject in the pictures. for instance, my father in law has been sent tickets 3 times for violations in washington DC, but he hasnt been there in years, and the vehicle in the picture is no where near what his is.

**Numark318i** · 05-30-2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Storamin

i don't stop for red lights after midnight.

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i hate peopel who run red lights. Its horrible in San Francisco. Even the busses run the lights.

I have seen a couple of cases where a guy stops at a red light, looks both ways and waits for a semi safe clearing to take off and run the red light...atleast hes curtious?

Storamin · 05-30-2006, 09:19 PM

well, you don't understand pixburgh. the lights are positioned so you really can't see half of them. and where i drive nobody is around after midnight.

**Red_Rocket** · 05-30-2006, 09:57 PM

yea suburban ATL is the same way, no-one out at night, red lights last 6 min...why waste the time when visibility is 4 miles in all directions

**Rooz** · 05-30-2006, 10:14 PM

Can we say entrapment?

I've heard about cops using taxi cars

**Hoppy** · 05-30-2006, 10:37 PM

en·trap ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-trp)
tr.v. en·trapped, en·trap·ping, en·traps
To catch in or as if in a trap.

To lure into danger, difficulty, or a compromising situation. See Synonyms at catch.
To lure into performing a previously or otherwise uncontemplated illegal act.

the officer being under cover, does NOT lure the people to run the light
IT IS NOT ENTRAPMENT!