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Unread 05-29-2006, 05:02 PM   #1
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rear camber adjustable?

hey, i think my car has noticeable rear camber issues (ill try to take pix later). i think i remember hearing that the rear camber is not adjustable, w/o adjustable camber arms, is this true? so if i take it in to get it aligned, they wouldnt be able to help me?
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Unread 05-29-2006, 07:07 PM   #2
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Not true. On the rear, both toe and camber can be adjusted independently. However, the factory range is limited; that's why people opt for adjustable control arms for track use. A competent shop should be able to correct your problem though. Also consider that you might just have worn bushings, and replacing them might get your angles back to factory specs.

It's the front camber that isn't adjustable, although changing the size of the upper hub to strut bolt can make up to a 1 degree difference.
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Unread 05-29-2006, 07:34 PM   #3
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Probably worn bushings or just got wacked out of spec..

do something about it quick though, you'll eat right through your tires if the problem is that visable.
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link to where I can get new bushings?

thanks for the help guys.
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First off, the most obvious thing is to check if your lower control arms are bent; it's not uncommon. As for bushings, you're dealing with upper and lower control arm bushings, and there's both inner and outer (parts #'s 2,3,6 & 8 In diagram below), and then there's the trailing arm bushing (part #4). Shouldn't kill your wallet too much; about $15-$40 each, depending on which ones you might need. Inspect them, visually compare one side of the car to the other, and wiggle them around to see how much play there is. You'll find them just about anywhere, definitely Pelican & AutoHaus, Bimmerworld and Bimmerparts should have them too.

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gAWD YOU ALL READ MY MIND!! iTS Been 3 Months since i had to fork out 300 bucks for 2 rear tires and guess what there eatin to shit again on the insides!!

I do have H&r owering Springs and both seem to be gettin eatin up at the same areas. do i just need the camber correction bars or what ??? HELP!
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If you didn't get an alignment after installing the lower springs, you should get one.
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If you didn't get an alignment after installing the lower springs, you should get one.
Damn your not on AIM!

So it is possible to get one without the need of buying the adjutable rear control arms?

i had these in mINd:
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^^^ Hard to say, each setup will differ slightly. In Spieluhr's case he doesn't have lowered springs so it shouldn't be a problem to align. In your case, the lowering springs may push the car's geomtery beyond the factory adjustable range But then again, I don't hear too many people having to go with adjustable control arms after they lower their car.
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^^^ Hard to say, each setup will differ slightly. In Spieluhr's case he doesn't have lowered springs so it shouldn't be a problem to align. In your case, the lowering springs may push the car's geomtery beyond the factory adjustable range But then again, I don't hear too many people having to go with adjustable control arms after they lower their car.
OK lemme tell ya the car is low. and well the camber is wayyy out, but can the bars help at all i was reading this from UUC:
"Why use adjustable rear control arms?With a lowered car (either for street or track use), the non-adjustable original arms cause unwanted negative camber - the tops of the rear tires angle in too much, causing uneven tire wear and unwanted effects on handling. The adjustable rear control arm corrects this problem and can be tuned for any lowering, whether a street car ro a full-on race car through a +1.0° to -3.0° range."


but im not sure how off i am..... does that mean those only work within that +1 to - 3 range ? Im freakin lost.
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If that's what it says, then yea, I guess that's what it does. I highly doubt you'd be off anymore than UUC's range of adjustability, if you're even beyond the factory range.
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crap yep i see this Diy but um i kinda hate goin to have shit like this done.. When i know i can do it myself.

http://home.comcast.net/~matthew.c.s...RCCA/index.htm
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ok, ill ask them tomorrow about the print out, thanks.
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My rear camber is messed up too...

... and from what i read, i guess it is just a matter of bringing my car to a shop and have them align it.

The thing is, i did this already, (brought it to El's Tire in Glasgow, DE) and i explicitly told them to see if they can fix the rear camber, (while doing the alignment) and they didn't, and when i asked the mechanic what may be causing the camber, he said i needed new springs. So i got a set of H&R OE springs, (0.5" rear, 1.0" front) and nothing changed. the front got lowered, but the rear was still F-ed.

So from reading this post i guess what i am going to do is bring my BMW to a more competent shop to have the rear camber adjusted.

thank you United Bimmer!
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This is my car before the H&R springs. You can see how the rear is cambered out.

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