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Old 09-10-2005, 04:46 PM   #16
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Not trying to sound like an idiot, but I have never heard of an Alpina Bmw...
but you must have heard of alpina wheels? 20 spoke alloys..

alpina paints most of there cars montreal blue and does some gold pinstriping.

the b3 3.0 is easily my fav car..
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Old 09-10-2005, 05:01 PM   #17
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so, it's just body work? No engine?
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Old 09-10-2005, 05:13 PM   #18
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no. I was just telling how you know it's an alpina. they all have engine work, thats what alpina does.

this link shows some specs of some alpina cars: http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk/alpina.html
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Old 09-10-2005, 07:33 PM   #19
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Any specs on an E36?
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e36's:

B6 2.8, 2752cc, I6, 240HP@6000RPM, 213HP@4700RPM, 6.6s 0-60, 156mph top speed
B3 3.0, 2997cc, I6, 241HP@5800RPM, 227HP@4600RPM, 6.6s 0-60, 156mph top speed
B3 3.2, 3152cc, I6, 256HP@5800RPM, 243HP@4200RPM, 6.0s 0-60, 160mph top speed
B8 4.6, 4619cc, V8, 333HP@5700RPM, 346HP@3900RPM, 5.6s 0-60, 175mph top speed
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Old 09-10-2005, 07:44 PM   #21
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Not trying to sound like an idiot, but I have never heard of an Alpina Bmw...
Are you serioes rooz? Surely you have read a bimmer magazine or something, that has a feature on like an old Alpina 8 or E30 m3?
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B6 2.8, 2752cc, I6, 240HP@6000RPM, 213HP@4700RPM, 6.6s 0-60, 156mph top speed
B3 3.0, 2997cc, I6, 241HP@5800RPM, 227HP@4600RPM, 6.6s 0-60, 156mph top speed
B3 3.2, 3152cc, I6, 256HP@5800RPM, 243HP@4200RPM, 6.0s 0-60, 160mph top speed
B8 4.6, 4619cc, V8, 333HP@5700RPM, 346HP@3900RPM, 5.6s 0-60, 175mph top speed

is that at the wheels?


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Are you serioes rooz? Surely you have read a bimmer magazine or something, that has a feature on like an old Alpina 8 or E30 m3?
I had heard of there wheels and body parts, didn't know they had the Alpina BMW's...
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Old 09-10-2005, 08:20 PM   #23
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Isn't Alpina considered its own manufacturer because of all the work they do when the BMW comes in the door that they can badge them and sell them as Alpinas?
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i guess so, its kinda like RUF porsches, RUF is considered its own manufacturer, and all they do is mod Porsches
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ALPINA is what but BMW on the map back in 1972...when the founder of ALPINA was looking for a motor company to experiment with and use new technique for increasing HP. This dude was like Torque...he was all about HP increases.
An at the 1965 Auto Show..this guy fell in love with the BMW 1500 and got permission from BMW to modify the car for racing purposes.
Anyway, his alpina modification made BMW win alot of world class racing championships and BMW gavee him full permission and alot of mone to experiment on many of the cars...
because of ALPINA we got V12 engines in the 750i during the early 80s...
During the 90's ALPINA created B12 engines in the 5 series BMW. and the ALPINA e39 is like one my favorite cars of all time. ALPINA is a combination of style, handling and engine power.
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01.01.1965. Alpina as we know it today started in 1965 with the foundation of Brukard Bovensiepen KG. With his life‘s work Mr. Bovensiepen wanted the best product so he learned the profession of toolmaking and then from there he went to study mechanical engineering and business economics. From his first ernings Burkard bought a Fiat 1500 for himself but the problem was it was way to under powered so he took the car to NARDI where he was able to increase the H.P rating from 67 to 75 H.P. After all this and 50 Kilometers later the bearing in the crankshaft was defective.

After the dissapoinment Burkard wanted to try automobile tuning. He wanted to develop a product that had fixed prices a guarantee and with the quality of excellence. So he wanted to know what car manufacturer deliverd the best product ! The answer to this question was going to come during the international automobile show ( IAA ) in Frankfirt 1962. After his intense tour around the show the decision was made, it was the BMW 1500. The 1500 had a series production of 80 H.P. but the protypes were from 50-75 H.P. Once the decision was made to go ahead and work on BMW cars Burkard wanted to build a modern workshop of medium size which would also be able to handle the customer service around the european region.

The company Bovensiepen & Co.KG offerd a conversion kit with instalation for 980- Dm in 1963 and the performance increased to 90 H.P. A friendly relationship started to develop between BMW and Alpina which also allowed Alpina to leave their original workshop to test at BMW. With the new conversion kit and the positive feedback in Munich – Milbertshofen led the way for a new experimental department and the release of the 1500 Alpina plant. With the BMW executive board and the customer service this led the way for the Alpina 1500. Now with Alpina making a profit Burkard Bovensiepen did not see the need to build up a costly car dealership.


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The Name Alpina came to many publications but one specialist named Car Engine and Sports did a very positive report about Mr. Bovensiepen first plant in the issue #22 of 1963. A new era had started on January 1st 1965 where he was able to make its name under the contraction of ALPINA and also where Burkard founded the Burkard Bovensiepen KG. With only 15000- DM in the bag 6 determind employees the company not only was doing carburetors but now revising cylinder heads. The name ALPINA was the invention of Mr. Bovensiepen‘s mother, she wanted to document her attachement to her native country with that.

With the great confidence of BMW in Alpina BMW wanted to be seen in the Alpina racing department and in the international saloon car racing. With this new racing department BMW gave Alpina 800,000- DM to develop BMW race cars. Burkard had already proved his engagement by the showing of three championships in 1967. Alpina had made the impossible and won the German ralley championship, round distance championship and as well as the hill championship all in one year. In 1970 Alpina won the European mountain championship and through this also attained the international opening.


ALPINA facility/engine 1965 - 1973
Alpina was now the second largest tuning company in Europe behind the Italian company Abarth. With now seventy employees and with high demand for Alpina products the orignal company got to small and Burkard changed to a bigger building. Alpina changed in the end of 1970 from the Sundetenstrasse 99 in Kaufbeuren to Alpenstrasse 35-37 in Buchloe.

The year 1973 was actually an anniversary year because Alpina existed unofficially for 10 years but things started to get tough in the world of automobile consumption of oil and gas. This year was the start of the oil crisis and many turners fell victim to it. At this time Mr. Bovensiepen had put a favorable consumption to the greatest value in clever forsight. The Alpina cars used up no more petrol as the series of BMW cars. Actually in the case of the B2 3.0S this car was even lower in consumption than the BMW series. However, there were sufficent customers during this time and Alpina became the largest tuning business in 1973 with 85 employees and now was in front of the largest tuning company in Europe and ahead of Abrath of Italy.

Despite the nice products Alpina has been offering at this time the sales volume sane considerably in 1973 and it became even worse in 1974. Alpina felt economically better than other BMW tuners. At this time Alpina had reconized the signs of the times and the company politics changed. So instead increasing the supply further Alpina decided there were products for less financially strong customers.

1976 was a great sporting success, with Toine Hezemans and Dieter Quester driving they were able to win with the BMW- ALPINA 3.0 CSL this was the third saloon car European championship. With eleven races the Alpina team hd won five victories and which enough for the championship season.

Besides the 3.0 CSL Alpina had produced the 3 series and 5 series cars. Alpina offerd the 3 series car in three different engine versions. The entry level model A1 had 120H.P., the A2 150 H.P. and the injection version A4 with 155 H.P. The engines also got the 02 approved and the A4 was even offered in the 5 series.


ALPINA facily/engine 1974 - 1979
Mr. Bovensiepen had privately achieved great success which he could not assess for himself highly enough. When he was mentioned together with other tuners this annoyed him because he was the only one developing a complete car. It was official in 1978 that Bovensipen was regarded as a manufacturer of automobiles and along with his 80 employess.

Since the Alpina Became exclusicely complete cars that were sold from Buchloe anyone who wanted to equip their car with Alpina accessories could buy the parts. The installation then had to be made along the or in the the workshop. Every automobile got a silver- plated type lable and on the plaque it had the engraved vehicle type and the production number. On the left side engraves the company name ALPINA B. Bovensiepen KG and in the middle was the trademark and on the right side is the slogan „production of exlsusive automobiles“

Alpina had retired from the mototsport at the end of the season of 1977. Team Jaguar and the others were no more serious on increasing the competion. With Alpina wanting to put more of their energy on road cars Alpina felt that they just could not put any of their employees limited employees on the racing side any longer.

With the legendary vehicles like the E21 B6 2.8, E12 and E24 B7 Turbo coupe Alpina has now begun the era of complete automobiles from Buchole. The prices in the King class started at 44,500 –DM and ended with the B7 Turbo Coupe at 79,000 – DM . These cars belonged to the most well to do executives. The sales volume in the year 1979 showed that it was the right decision of Mr. Bovensiepen to offer complete cars. This did not change in the year 1980 in which the E21 C1 2.3 was offerd as the only new development.


ALPINA vehicles 1978 - 1982

Cars were not just Alpinas only source of income and Mr. Bovensiepen started his now well know and respected wine business in 1980. From small beginnings, this soon became one of the most important wine houses in Germany offering wines from many wine producing countries.

At Alpina there was an important point at the production of Alpina cars, the thrifty comsumption of petrol and the use of modern technology. In 1981, the car magazine „ Auto Motor and sport „ organized a kilometer marathon on the Nürburgring. An Alpina E21 318I won the sovereignly on there class with only 2,672 liters of petrol used 100KM. This was achieved with switching the cylinders, one wheel drive and friction reduction measures. The new BMW E28 5 series also partipated in the competition with a usage of 2,92 liters, with this Alpina won second place behind the Mercedes diesel which used up only 0,05 less liters of petrol.

Bovensiepen got the EC part business permission on 10.21.1983. The status was consolidated further as an own manufacturer with this. His manufacturer key number changed from 0900 to 7656. With now Alpina being a builder of complete cars Mr. Bovensiepen got very angry if one describes Alpina as a tuner company. 1983 became a very economically bad year for Alpina. During this year Alpina had offerd only the B9 cars and all others were still in the development phases.

During the year 1984 a new high rack store was built for the 20 year anniversary. This gigantic store was 50 x 30 meters tall, the first half was for the wine trade and the second half is for the spare parts and 600 six cylinders engines.

Alpina changed its status from limited partner company (Co KG) to GmbH. The topic of enviromental protection was very current in Germany in 1985 and for this all car producers had to equip their cars with Catalyst system with in the next years. The political parties also discussed a speed limit on the secondary roads ( 80 Km/h ) and motorways ( 100 Km/h ). After ten years of Alpina producing Alpina cars BMW has now offerd the new 325I convertible. With this car Alpina has now offerd for the first time a complete convertible.


ALPINA vehicles 1983 - 1987
1987 started a radical re-arangement of their model numbers by Mr Bovensiepen. The little six cylinder engines with 2.7 liters of cubic inches started with „C“ and the big six cylinder engines started with the letter „B“ Well with the Alpina C2 2.7 it had the little six engines and as development came along the C2 2.7 was renamed to the B3 2.7

1988 presented Bovensiepen with his first ever twelve cylinder engine and which also was the strongest saloons‘s in Germany. The starting point was the BMW 750I and it was produced in june 1987 and it was marked as the B12 5.0

During the year of 1978 Alpina produced the B7 turbo which was considerd one of the fastest cars in the world. From the continuation of the turbo the B10 Bi Turbo was produced and at that time it was regarded as the fastest saloon in the world. With this car other car makers like Opel launched the lotus Omega during the Geneva Motor Show with a output of 377 H.P and was enterd in the Guiness book of records. The Bi Turbo was also introduced at the same time but it was in no danger of the Opel.

The good economic situation made it possible to build a 2500 sqm tall cultivation. The new building was completed in the year of 1990. Bovensiepen is now a employer of 110 employees and this is the largest number that company has seen. As Mr Bovensiepen says „ this will be my last new building, the next will come from my children“

The exclusiveness which was offerd by Alpina dint go yet far enough! The possibilty of a even more exlusive automobile was being produced and the price tag for such car wasa million DM for the NAZCA C2, this car was developed by the Northitalian „Fabrizio Giugiario“ but this car cost way to much. BMW had fulfillment of more HP and referd to Mr. Bovensiepen. Fabrizio G. didn`t make any secrets to his interest, To produce the NAZCA C2 it a little series. Alpina had no problem in producing the car on a technical side and Mr. Bovensiepen was very proud of this. For this they decided to use the B12 engine. How efficiently was this engine? It was pointed out that from a dead sprint the car can do 0-100 Km/h in 3.8 seconds and the maximum speed was more than 300 Km/h.


ALPINA vehicles 1989 - 1993
1992 presented Alpina the newly developed shift-tronic. A similar sytem was called the Tiptronic at Porsche. It was‘nt an automatic clutch although the clutch pedal was missing. One could change the gears with two switches behind the steering wheel. These were possible with the normal six gear GETRAG gearbox and the electronic clutch management of the company LUK

The new B3 engine harmonized so well with the automatic gearbox thoroughly. In cooperation with the companies ZF and BOSCH Alpina developed an electronic control system for the automatic gearbox. These gearbox was exactly coordinated by the five gear automatic system by the type ZF 5HP18. Two of three switching programs were programmed newly. Only the winter program remained unchanged. The normal E- program presented itselffundamentally more actively now. This system was tought for customers who prefer a dynamic was of driving despite automatics. The normal sporting S- program became the exclusve switch- tronic program of Alpina changed. At this system the automatic held the engaged gear. One can manually change the gears, however by two switches behind the steering wheel at any time. The right activates the gear to change up and the left is down,

1995 Alpina offerd the new B12, a World novelty again. The first heatable catalyst, it was meaning and purpose of this measure was to bring the exhaust fumes as fast as possible to an operational catalyst. At conventional catalyst the exhaust fumes escaped from the exhaust without being cleaned. The idea was to install the catalyst at the engine and as near front as possible but the engine was just to big !!!


ALPINA vehicles 1993 - 1998
1999. A new era has Begun with the Alpina Diesel engine. Mr. Bovensiepen has fitted this new Diesel engine with two turbo’s which brought the output to 245HP and which made the this the worlds fasted Diesel sedan. The Diesel engine was designed at BMW but it was a joint effort of BMW and ALPINA. Alpina presented a Diesel engine for the first time in 35 years at the Geneva motor show. The car was called the D10 Bi Turbo. This was also the largest Diesel engine to ever leave the workshop at Buchloe. The 12 Cylinder engine in the E38 was bored out now to six liters and had a capacity of 430HP at the crank. With 430HP this gave Alpina 100HP gain over the standard E38 BMW !


2000. For the year 2000 it ended with a new record of 568 registerd Alpina owners with the German certification aurhorities which easily passed the registration of only 49 cars in 1998. Even in Japan the number of registerd owners have showed that the far East show they also do like fine Automobiles from Buchloe.


2001. This was also the time that Alpina presented a new wheel. With the Classic Alpina Wheel to the Soft line wheel and now the New wheel which can be seen on the Z8 Roadster, Z4 Roadster and now you can see a major evolution to the Alpina wheels.


2002. Now with the New Z8 roadster and their new wheel, it was time to expand to the North America Market. With Alpina now in America they have produced 555 Z8 roadsters and which 450 will be sent to the USA market. These version will have only a SHIFT tronic transmission, 2 colors of Black and silver. Originally it was supposed to be only 333 copies sent to the USA. The other 105 will be sent to rest of Europe and Japan. The Models B3 3.3 and the B10 V8 were also being produced. With these version Alpina was able to further develop these engines and then they were called the B3 3.3s and the B10 V8s just like the past cars, E12 and E24 B7s’s further developed engines. The S models were also giving the improved brakes signature by Brembo.


2003 Alpina realize an engine in the new BMW Alpina B7 charged by a mechanically driven radial compressor. The news here is the first time combination of VALVE TRONIC and supercharging, with a quite a postive impact on fuel economy. The new B7 can put out 500HP and which is by far the strongest Alpina ever produced.

2004.................
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holy shit those are tight ass cars!!! alpina wheels are so classic and elegant.

I have a video where the BMW M3, Alpina 3.3, and the Hartge 5.5 are all compared and tested. I'll try to post it up in the multimedia section, might interest you guys.
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