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Old 08-11-2005, 04:41 AM   #1
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San Andreas given AO rating and pulled from shelves

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By RON HARRIS, Associated Press Writer
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SAN FRANCISCO - The video game industry's decision to give an adults-only rating to the best-selling "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" because of explicit sexual content could signal the start of a crackdown on raunchy games.

The rating change followed intense pressure from politicians and media watch groups. Retailers reacted swiftly — Wal-Mart Stores Inc., Target Corp. and Best Buy Co. said Wednesday they would pull all copies from their store shelves nationwide.

Rockstar Games, the producer of "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas," said it has stopped making the current version of the game, which includes graphic sex scenes that can be unlocked with an Internet download. The game was released in October with an "M" rating, for players 17 and older.

Sen. Hilary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, applauded the change but said she was disturbed the sexual content appeared on store shelves in the first place. She asked the Federal Trade Commission to investigate and called on the Entertainment Software Rating Board to do more to police game content.

"Apparently the sexual material was embedded in the game. The company admitted that," Clinton said. "The fact remains that the company gamed the ratings system."

Rep. Joe Baca (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., said this week the video game industry needs a good dose of government oversight and renewed a call for a law requiring the FTC to determine if the video game industry's labeling practices are unfair or deceptive.

"Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" was last year's top console game, selling more than 5.1 million copies in the U.S., according to market analyst NPD Group. Xbox and PC versions were released last month.

Rockstar's parent company, New York-based Take Two Interactive Software Inc., acknowledged for the first time that the sex scenes were built into the retail version of the game. Company officials previously suggested that a modification created by outsiders added the scenes.

"The editing and finalization of any game is a complicated task and it's not uncommon for unused and unfinished content to remain on the disc," Take-Two spokesman Jim Ankner told The Associated Press.

In a statement, ESRB chief Patricia Vance said the sex scenes were programmed by Rockstar "to be inaccessible to the player." But she also acknowledged that the "credibility and utility" of the industry-run board's initial "M" rating had been "seriously undermined."

Rockstar said it would provide new labels to any retailer willing to keep selling the games and offer a downloadable patch to fix the sexual content in PC versions. The company also is working on a new, more secure version, to be rated "M," for mature.

A computer program known as Hot Coffee allows users to unlock the sex scenes. Such modifications — or "mods" — are wildly popular among the hardcore gaming community, and have been shown to extend the retail longevity of games. "Half-Life," for example, is still sold years after its release because of a Counter-Strike mod that allows for detailed counter-terrorist shoot'em-up action.

Take-Two president Paul Eibeler said "the decision to re-rate a game based on an unauthorized third party modification presents a new challenge for parents, the interactive entertainment industry and anyone who distributes or consumes digital content."

The Parents Television Council, one of several media watchdogs that have criticized Rockstar and the ESRB, called on the game publisher to recall the game and offer refunds.

"I tip my cap to that first step of showing responsibility," said Tim Winter, the council's executive director. "Phase two needs to be absolutely getting to the bottom of this coding issue. How did it get into that game? How did it get past the ratings board?"

Take-Two said net sales could drop by more than $50 million this quarter, and lowered its financial expectations for the year to set aside funds for returns of the games.
You'd think they'd focus their effors on other things. You have to be a computer expert to figure out how to unlock the secret computer-animated sex game, however anyone can browse the internet and see porn everywhere of the actual thing, not computer animated.
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Old 08-11-2005, 05:01 AM   #2
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:01 AM   #3
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yes old news, but I think the point of posting it was to show how fucked up our government is. How they nit pick at every fucking thing that our children might see. I personally know a kid up the street that isn't allowed anything and he has the worst social skills and is a total tard. The more we hide from our children the more they will try on their own.
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Old 08-11-2005, 09:33 AM   #4
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lol a total tard, i know the type, yeah they recently made it a law here that you have to be 17 and show id to get an m rated game, which i think is fucking rediculous, like harry said anyone can view porn, but i can't buy halo? also my friend tried to buy fight club from wal-mart and they wouldn't let him because he wasn't 17 and it was rated r? i don't know if that's a law or if that's wal-mart policy because like 2 weeks ago i bought 3 r-rated movies from target and no one questioned it at all????
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its not really gonna matter. people will still be able to get the games... its so easy to find any game u want off the internet. its still beat though... cuz i like that game
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also my friend tried to buy fight club from wal-mart and they wouldn't let him because he wasn't 17 and it was rated r? i don't know if that's a law or if that's wal-mart policy because like 2 weeks ago i bought 3 r-rated movies from target and no one questioned it at all????

it's wal-mart policy, bro. I unfortunately used to work there, but i got fired for selling an r movie to a minor. But i agree with harry, anyone can find porn on the internet, why would you need animated porn? My 8yr old nephew finds more porn than i do.
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My 8yr old nephew finds more porn than i do.
thats sad.....
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Old 08-11-2005, 11:27 AM   #8
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is not, i have to use a public computer, he has one at home.
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old news.. komodo....
Oops. I guess I missed it then. haha
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Theres bigger things to worry about in this world than animated porn in a fucking video game. People just need to chiiiiillllll.
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:21 PM   #12
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is not, i have to use a public computer, he has one at home.
its sad that an 8 year old is looking at that stuff...
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lol i finished that game, and no i didnt download that hack or whatever
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