SUVs
 

I'm adding this one up. Because we are not done yet. :uhoh

Apparently SUVs can suck nick_318is's nuts.

You got it. Here it is, right where you want it.

I guess Craig likes them for what they are used for.

I'll get to this later.

Ok, with that....I have to say:

Why does everybody associate SUV drivers as being bad. All I did was suggest SUV and everybody freaked. :wtf

Did anybody NOTICE what SUVs I listed? Did anybody notice or comment about THOSE kind of drivers? Are they the same?!? :dunno Why the fuck does everybody have to assume that I'm talking about some fucking FORD. :ranting Exploreres....Excusions...Escapes....Ford SUVs SUCK. :angry

Yes, the majority of SUV drivers drive fucking FORDS, but gimme a break. I even listed the 4.8is. Does everbody HATE the 4.8is. If you do, you have problems and need to go drive one.

Have you seen a 4.8is take a corner? Have you seen a Range Rover Supercharged take a corner? Have you driven a Supercharged Range Rover or 4.8is? How about an Escalade? I know Cadillacs are suppost to be for "old" people (yes, and Camry's too....I don't mind taking it if I give it out. :rolleyes). But, if you got money, these are the TOP SUVs on the market. Unless you have others to mention. (I already know the Porsche Cayenne Turbo S, and yes....I like it.)

Exclusive SUV drivers are NOT the same. :ranting

And, if you are going to compare an SUV with a HIGH DOLLAR EXPENSIVE SPORTS CAR please don't undervalue the stakes by assuming we are talking about a LOADED fucking FORD Explorer. Oh wait. Does the e46 2006 Competition Package M3 count as an expensive sports car? Uhhh if you don't....please don't comment because I don't want to hear it. You could buy 2-3 Explorers for the price of a Competition Package M3. Right. Go do the math yourself. And come back when you are ready.

I've had enough, please don't ban me....this SUV thing has got me all worked up and I need to vent.

I'm ready, lets hear the replies.

ehhh.. still dont like them.. :)

Use them for what they are made for, Hauling people, and going off-road

but yea, not all SUV drivers are dicks, not ALL

^^^ agreed, but i'm really tired of seeing one god damn person in a huge escalade or lexus or something completely unnessacary. if you use it for what it could be used for, great. but a lot of people don't.

maybe it's my engineering side coming out: "the glass isn't half-full or half-empty, it's twice as big as it should be."

I absolutey love SUVs and trucks. I don't like them to be huge, however.

I don't like car-based SUVs and crossovers. What are people thinking?

Truck-based SUVs serve a purpose. I grew up in a country where we don't always have roads that lead to the place where you want to go. Try driving an M3 ZCP through the jungle.

As much as I like SUVs and trucks, I don't own one because it would be ridiculous for me. I don;t need to haul anything around, and we have decent roads around here. The subpar driving dynamics, and the absolute innefficiency that results from driving ONE person around in such a huge, heavy vehicle have kept me away from them.

SUVs were a good invention. Like credit cards, they have a use. A very good use. However, far too many people think they need them and know how to handle them.

+1 red rocket, and lot attendant, no hard feelings(i hope) ... the reason i said that is b/c my friend just rolled his SUV 6 times..

how much does a supercharged land rover or escalade or a 4.8is cost? maybe it is a little cheaper than the m3(i personally dont know) but i can safely say(and i think u may agree with me) that the m3 handles a little better :)

oh yes, and i completely agree with the whole car based SUV things, like all those acura and infinity suvs that are car based, basically a sedan? yea WTF? those things r retarded, its 4 door, 5 passanger, and the only advantage is a big luggage compartment? id rather have a sedan

Absoluetely! One of my professors mentioned this in class several years ago, and ever since, I have only heard it when it came out of my lips. Until today.

It is good to see other engineers are onboard with this thought :)

I agree with all of you on certain levels. BUt everything you're saying about SUV"s could be said about any car.

Why do you need a sports car? You can never drive it the way it was meant to be driven.

Why do you need a big sedan? You dont have any kids.

Why anything?

sports cars: most people on here go find a good road and drive it like its suposed to be driven. but, i dont exalcy consider a 325is or 328is a "sports car" i consider them cool looking "getting around" cars.

big sedan: that has confused me for the longest time untill i bought the tbird. you have no idea how much i would have liked a sporty 4 door. our church was doing this thing and i had to drive alot of people places in the tbird. not fun. three people in the so called 'back seat" and one up front with me. they had to get in and out very quickly for what we were doing, and that was nearly impossable witha two door. so even if you dont have a family, its still very handy to have if you like to take your friends places.

No, definately NO hard feelings. I just wanted to get things straight about the whole SUV thing. I appreciate everbody's contribution. :D

Ok, you got me. :rolleyes
Range Rover Supercharged starts at $90,750.
Escalade starts at $55,120.
X5 4.8is starts at $71,100.

Yes, I agree, the M3 does handle a little better. :p

How is meant to be driven other than fast and in turns? Yes, I can drive it fast and around corners.

Big sedan? Are we talking about an e60 or e66? Big sedan? The idea that I'm trying to get is, hypotetically, bigger is safer.

Why anything? Because it's better than walking or riding a bike. Why do you choose to drive what you drive? Or do what you do?

Yeah, I see your point, and it's a very good answer.

See, that's where we differ. I'm a Business major and I ALWAYS see the glass half FULL.

Thank you. That's what I wanted to read. :clap

That is my point. My wife has a 4-runner, not the new car looking model, but the last of the true 4x4's, she use's it for what most people here (UB.c) consider a good reason. We have a lot of snow here in the winter, and it is comfortable (relatively speaking) for our 2 children. But in no way is this thing safe. If it wasnt for the electronic stabilty control, that thing would be the most dangerous thing on the friggin road. The high center of gravity and short wheel base, make for a dangerous combination on any road that is not smooth. And the roads here are not smooth at the best of times, what with the drastic changes in temperature.
It gets pretty much the same milage as my 535i, and is a lot more rugged.
I have a mid sized sedan in the e34, but I still would have bought it whether or not I needed it. I mean, my kids are very rarely in my car anyway.
My ponit is I agree with all of you on some level. And at the same time I disagree with all of you on some level.
But one thing I would like to add, I dont want to see an escalade or an expedition, or an H2 on the road ever,(wich my inlaws have, and surprisingly enough have taken it "off road" resulting in hundreds of dollars in repairs every time they have taken it it "off road"). They are not practical in anyway whatsoever, unless your transporting troops to a battle,or hunting T-Rex.