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**mullethunter3** · 03-17-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by xsperf

cmon, give american engineers a LITTLE bit of credit(althought i must agree, why should you, just take a look at american cars..)

so mullet, what is your major?(tis ok im an engineer as well

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I would give American car engineers more credit if every American car my family has owned wasn't broken within five years ( all bought brand new, btw). We only own BMW's now and haven't had a problem (unlike the entire transmission that literally broke while we were 1000 miles from home, thanks GM).

Anyway, I'm double majoring in Architectural and Civil Engineering with an emphasis in Construction Management. You?

**Dr1ve4fun** · 03-17-2007, 07:50 PM

^^heh every American car we have had was the same way...I will never buy one. All European for me

(unless it is an old American car..like an old caddy or something but even then I would probably buy an old European car instead.)

**theSMELSINATOR** · 03-17-2007, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mullethunter3

We only own BMW's now and haven't had a problem (unlike the entire transmission that literally broke while we were 1000 miles from home, thanks GM).

yuck, GM!

NOT the kind of American engineering i meant.

**Dudesky** · 03-17-2007, 08:41 PM

Um . . a lot of BMW's have transmissions made by GM

**theSMELSINATOR** · 03-17-2007, 08:44 PM

^^^then i hope mine doesn't.

when you say "made" do you mean manufactured or engineered?

**Dudesky** · 03-17-2007, 08:51 PM

I know they're manufactured by GM; I don't know whether they're designed by them.

**theSMELSINATOR** · 03-17-2007, 08:58 PM

okay, because if GM designs them then mullet's point (and all points about american engineering) is...well, pointless.

drz · 03-18-2007, 12:56 AM

As far as I know, they were off-the-shelf type of trannies that GM had already designedt, with BMW simply buying from GM.

nick_318is · 03-18-2007, 12:57 AM

Go Team America!

**mullethunter3** · 03-18-2007, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dudesky

I know they're manufactured by GM; I don't know whether they're designed by them.

I need proof!!!!!11

**Dudesky** · 03-18-2007, 05:18 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_4L30-E_transmission

GM's plant in France also produces a 5 spd steptronic tranny used in some E46's. Threre's a lot of talk on web forums that ZF and Getrag are made by GM, and I used to think that was true. But they are, in fact German, and ZF in particular manufactured the transmissions in the Panzer tanks of WWII.

**celsdogg** · 03-18-2007, 03:42 PM

^^^ both.

im pretty sure yours doesnt.

edit: somehow this post ended up down here, but i posted it right after smel's last comment on the first page.

**Dudesky** · 03-18-2007, 04:47 PM

^^^Mine? Is a Getrag, and the synchros are shot . . German engineering

j/k

**mullethunter3** · 03-18-2007, 07:09 PM

Did the tranny from a 2000 Chevy Venture come from there?

drz · 03-18-2007, 07:22 PM

From where? The 2000 Chevy venture used a 4T65-E GM tranny: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_4T60-E_transmission