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Forced Induction Sponsored by: TechniqueTuning.com
Discuss Forced Induction on BMWs with NickG from techniquetuning.com. (turbos and superchargers) |
08-22-2006, 10:48 PM
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Name: B_w.
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Originally Posted by 94bmw325i
I saw a turbo kit I think its the new TSI (?) kit for 4k ish, I was wondering what kind of numbers a 325 could do?
Looks like you will get some awesome numbers when it is finished!
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yeah the tsi kit is pretty sweet for a intro kit. my buddy as the tester for it. with only the extra injector setup and no tuning he made 245whp and 240wtq. he is in the process of tuning it for 42Lbs injectors so he should be over 300whp with that.
this is on a 92 non vanos 325.
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08-22-2006, 10:51 PM
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Name: B_w.
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Originally Posted by dinan540
What kind of car are you turbo charging? About how much is it costing you in parts to do this? Are you reading any books on how to build and install a turbo? have you done this before?
Sorry, lots of quetions because I am interested in Forced Induction.
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its an e36 328is. so far i am about $7k usd in parts and it keeps going up with the odd thing here and there.
i have never done this before and spent the last year figuring out how i will do it.
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08-28-2006, 02:10 PM
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Name: 94bmw325i
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Originally Posted by B_w.
yeah the tsi kit is pretty sweet for a intro kit. my buddy as the tester for it. with only the extra injector setup and no tuning he made 245whp and 240wtq. he is in the process of tuning it for 42Lbs injectors so he should be over 300whp with that.
this is on a 92 non vanos 325.
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any idea what it might do on a vanos 325?
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08-28-2006, 05:38 PM
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Name: dinan540
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Any reason why you didn't just upgrade the car? I just started kicking around the idea of forced induction in the future. But then, I wonder if I should just buy an E39 M5 in the future because of the cost of S/C or a Turbo in my 540.
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08-28-2006, 05:45 PM
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Name: B_w.
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Originally Posted by dinan540
Any reason why you didn't just upgrade the car? I just started kicking around the idea of forced induction in the future. But then, I wonder if I should just buy an E39 M5 in the future because of the cost of S/C or a Turbo in my 540.
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because my turbo e36 will be much faster than anything else that bmw makes. i bet it will be quicker than all the new m models (3,5,6). plus insurance is much less. let alone a e39 m5 still costs at least $60,000 cdn for a 2000. plus a e39 is just a different kind of car that would not be fun to drive in the same way my e36 is.
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08-28-2006, 06:01 PM
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Name: dinan540
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Good point. The e39 weighs a lot as compared to the e36. What kind of numbers are you trying to reach?
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08-28-2006, 06:26 PM
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Name: xsperf
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FYI nick, the non-vanos engine will probably put ot more horespower when turbocharged than a vanos engine
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08-28-2006, 08:05 PM
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Name: B_w.
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Originally Posted by dinan540
Good point. The e39 weighs a lot as compared to the e36. What kind of numbers are you trying to reach?
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hopefully around 440 at the wheels 
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08-28-2006, 08:08 PM
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FYI nick, the non-vanos engine will probably put ot more horespower when turbocharged than a vanos engine
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really? why is that? i have never heard that before.
the non vanos engine has some beefier components such as dual valve springs and thicker rods but those do not actaully make more power, just help with longevity. vanos helps create more power, thats why they added it in 93 and why the newer cars are double vanos.
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08-28-2006, 08:12 PM
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440 at the wheels is sick. How much boost will you run?
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08-28-2006, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dinan540
Any reason why you didn't just upgrade the car? I just started kicking around the idea of forced induction in the future. But then, I wonder if I should just buy an E39 M5 in the future because of the cost of S/C or a Turbo in my 540.
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i believe you can buy a vf supercharger for your car for $4500 that will make more power than the m5.
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08-28-2006, 08:16 PM
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I think the VF would give 440 HP at the flywheel. Yeah, it will be more than the M5. I didn't realize that it only costs $4500. I was under the impression it was more like 7-8K. Only time will tell if I go the route of Forced Induction. It is fun to learn and read about though.
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08-28-2006, 08:20 PM
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So the stage I VF supercharger for the 540 is $6000 and gives 415HP and 400 ft-lbs of torque at the flywheel. I checked it on www.beastpower.com
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08-28-2006, 08:48 PM
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Name: B_w.
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So the stage I VF supercharger for the 540 is $6000 and gives 415HP and 400 ft-lbs of torque at the flywheel. I checked it on www.beastpower.com
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still much cheaper than buying an m5 and much cheaper for maintenance and insurance.
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08-28-2006, 09:31 PM
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Name: xsperf
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B_w. its only from what i hear, is that the non-vanos engine is much more responsive to any modifications, and that people with normal e36 325i vanos, if they got the turbocharger route they actually swap out their engine for a non-vanos one, but then again, what do i know?
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08-29-2006, 12:10 AM
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why wouln't you just remove the vanos from the engine completely an not even bother with swapping out the engine.That way you would have the best of both worlds. then you could boost the shit out of it and tune easy.
Snyway,just my two cents.
Oh ya, almost forgot, for those who will detest that you cannot remove the vanos, blah,blah,blah.
just get this: http://www.vacmotorsports.com/cgi-bi...pl?item_id=597except for the e36's .They do make them but I'm two lazy to look anymore
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08-29-2006, 01:04 AM
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Name: xsperf
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damn i had no idea, nice find matimus
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08-29-2006, 04:43 PM
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Name: dinan540
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Originally Posted by B_w.
still much cheaper than buying an m5 and much cheaper for maintenance and insurance.
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I would imagine insurance would be less, but I don't know about cheaper. My 540 is worth about 30K and if I add 6K for a S/C plus labor, bigger brakes, suspesion, etc, I would be looking at 40K. I could get an M5 for 40K stock. The S/C would give me only a bit more HP than the stock M5. A tough call. I think a S/C would be fun.
Does anyone make a turbo for the 540i?
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08-29-2006, 08:05 PM
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Name: 94bmw325i
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Could get a dinan s3 m5! I think thats what its called, supposed to be one racing a new e60 m5 very soon near where I live, I can't wait to watch it.
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08-29-2006, 08:07 PM
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Name: B_w.
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Could get a dinan s3 m5! I think thats what its called, supposed to be one racing a new e60 m5 very soon near where I live, I can't wait to watch it.
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isb=nt that about $50,000 in upgrades?
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