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E36 General discussion and technical help for (E36) 1992-1999 3 series cars. 318, 323, 325, 328.

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Old 09-15-2005, 11:13 PM   #46
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There's a thread about it on just about every forum... hah
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Old 09-15-2005, 11:33 PM   #47
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Ah, also gotta consider with the 6-speed swap, I'd want an upgraded clutch and short shifter.... Thats another... $500-1,000.

I'd be dropping in an evo 6-speed tranny.

I think my first upgrade is going to be rims, then next gonna do the 6-speed drop, short shifter, ss clutch line, and ceramic clutch upgrade. Could I run like this for a while, and get a new diff later, or would I need to upgrade the tranny and diff at the same time? If not, then I'd get the diff next, then HP adding mods like cams.
A clutch has nothing to do w/ a tranny swap. Clutches are based on hp and tq. A new clutch should be the last thing you do.

Maybe after rims, you should look at suspension. Any way the posibilities are endless, thats why they call it a work in progress

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Old 09-15-2005, 11:35 PM   #48
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A clutch has nothing to do w/ a tranny swap. Clutches are based on hp and tq. A new clutch should be the last thing you do.

Maybe after rims, you should look at suspension. Any way the posibilities are endless, thats why they call it a work in progress

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That's a VERY good point. haha, forget the clutch.

Will the short shifter be the same after I drop the 6-speed in, or will I need to get an evo short shifter?
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A clutch has nothing to do w/ a tranny swap. Clutches are based on hp and tq. A new clutch should be the last thing you do.

Maybe after rims, you should look at suspension. Any way the posibilities are endless, thats why they call it a work in progress

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Yes, I'm quoting my self cuz I'm a f***ing retard . I forgot you had a slush box. Clutches are usually good to have when you drive a manual.

Holy shit, I can't believe I just told you not to get a chutch when you do the swap

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Old 09-15-2005, 11:40 PM   #50
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That's a VERY good point. haha, forget the clutch.

Will the short shifter be the same after I drop the 6-speed in, or will I need to get an evo short shifter?
Shit Harry, just get a damn 5sp. Who really gives a f**k. You won't even need sixth gear. Uless you want to drive 90 down the highway at 1500rpm.

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Old 09-15-2005, 11:46 PM   #51
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^^ dude thats not what 6 speed is about! 6 speed is about driving 70 at 3k, and much quicker acceleration!!!!!!

komodo, just make sure the arm coming out of the transmissoin is the same one as the one coming out of the 5 spd, they should be the same, i dont see why they would be different at all
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Yeah, but if I'm buying a clutch anyway, might as well get a nice one.
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Old 09-15-2005, 11:57 PM   #53
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not necessarily, see now u gotta make final decision if u gunna get the turbo or not, b/c if u are going to, then you need a very powerful clutch, otherwise, for your comfort, the comfort of your passangers, the stress on the drivetrain, and the stress on the muscles in ur leg, you might not want to get like a stage 3 or something
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^^ dude thats not what 6 speed is about! 6 speed is about driving 70 at 3k, and much quicker acceleration!!!!!!

komodo, just make sure the arm coming out of the transmissoin is the same one as the one coming out of the 5 spd, they should be the same, i dont see why they would be different at all
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A 6sp tranny won't help you to accelerate faster. A diff will, and w/ what Harry has on his car performance wise there is no need for a 6sp.

And as for going 70 at 3000, my little 5sp does that. And it also goes 75 at 3250, and 80 at 3500. Can you guess what it does at 3750?

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no, you are wrong, 6 speed WILL help you accelerate faster, let me ask you something, why do you think some trucks have 18 speed.. do you think when they go 70 in 5th gear they are at 3000? no way

so yes a 6 spd will help you accelerate faster, and if your 5 speed does that, well good for it, it really doesnt have anything to do with 6 speed(sorry if im acting a little cocky but thats the only way i can explain it)
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Old 09-16-2005, 12:33 AM   #56
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Won't the gears also be shorter? so better acceleration?
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^^ that's what I was thinking....
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If you get to the 24hp range, go ahead and get a 6-speed. I would personally get a 5-speed. The same transmission was used on 3.0 m3s and 328s. LSD, OBDI conversion. s52 cams. Software, some other misc. stuff and you're good to go -- with wheels.
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Then if I don't turbo, after s52 cams, what other hp mods could I do?
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I think you'll be pretty happy with a manual transmission as far as power goes. it really does make a lot of difference to have more gears and the ability to shift in high enough rpm's to actually get the power. 5sp, 6sp, whatever your going to be happy. have you done and ecu upgrade komodo?

I think most trucks with 18spd's etc. mostly have them because they are deisel engines and most deisel engines shouldn't be rev'd over like 4000rpm, on top of the fact that they are hauling.
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