Update on cams, advice on ECU PLS - Page 4 - United Bimmer Community

**xsperf** · 08-31-2005, 07:39 PM

well if you can find an SMG tranny that will fit(maybe there is a eurospec SMG tranny, not sure) you might have to get just that and a new differential and drive shaft, but it'll be much easier than a manual tranny swap b/c with a manual tranny you have to worry about putting in the clutch pedal, master + slave cylnder and all that junk

nick_318is · 08-31-2005, 08:36 PM

I'm not sure it will be easier you need to get a lot of computer control stuff in there and hook it all up, I think it would probably be more of a bitch. Oh and I was always under the smg used a real clutch, but I dont know for sure.

Edit - I have been searching a little and everything I see says its operated by a Clutch controled by a computer. And SMG will blip the throtle for downshifts leaving me to believe that there is a real clutch involved in the process.

**Rooz** · 08-31-2005, 08:37 PM

I think it would be great, never heard of it done before....

**Spieluhr** · 08-31-2005, 08:49 PM

It's more trouble than it's worth I am sure. The SMG is a lot of fun to drive on the e46 but there are so many integrated computers and shit. i am sure you would have to get a new ecu, and I'm sure the tranny only matches up to the e36 euro spec m3 engine, but who knows, this is all purely speculation.

**Rooz** · 08-31-2005, 09:39 PM

I see...

But back to topic. Am expecting cams to be here Tomorrow...

I just hope Fedex actually will deliver bcs of this all gas crisis....

**Spieluhr** · 09-01-2005, 03:06 AM

^^^
I hope they do too man. Sounds like you are really ancy to get to installing all of that stuff. Should make for some major power gains. I can remember back to when you were buying clear corners, your car has really come a long way, and in my opinion, everything has been done perfectly

**Rooz** · 09-01-2005, 07:39 AM

Thx a lot man

Yes once the cams get here my car is going under the knife for a lot of stuff:

S52 M3 cams,
M50 Manifold,
AA Software,
UUC SS lines,
New Rotors,
New Pads,
Stage Control Valve

DEATH2000 · 09-01-2005, 10:12 AM

^^^ damm dude. Any word on the M3 bumper yet?

**Rooz** · 09-01-2005, 05:50 PM

Actually yes, Mike called me today and thanked me for sending him yet another customer, he said ALL the bumpers should arrive By eraly next week!

Storamin · 09-01-2005, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick_318is

I dont call those hassles, they are everyday and I'm used to them and I actually really like some of those things. The only time a manual is bad is in heavy slow moving (stop and go) traffic. Your not supposed to use your clutch to hold the car in place thats how you burn them, use the brake peddle or park brake. And I believe there is an actuall clutch with SMG its just your not pushing it, a computer is doing all the work, I also believe that SMG has some things to keep you from rolling backwards on a hill (I'm not sure though, so don't quote me).

The e46 SMG II system is extremely advanced. The SMG I system from the euro m3 is NOT advanced. It is extremely clunky & not very much of a driver. I know, I drove one, and it drove like garbage. The e46 system is MUCH better.

Who mentioned using the clutch to hold you in place? When you're on a hill and are starting up, you will roll backwards less compared to the SMG I in a manual. The problem in SMG I is the clutch is stupid. It's slow & dimwited.

Oh yah, I quoted you :P

**Rooz** · 09-02-2005, 10:25 AM

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

NOW AM PISSED!

Cams did in fact come in today, but they are

USED!!!
I called KO and the guy was like "WTF", they should have been new.

I just want to

KO's providers. And they are both somewhat damaged, so no way in hell am going to use them. I'll figure something out by today. But I'll probably Overnight these back to whoever (either KO or their provider) and get my F---ing cams ASAP!

here are some pics..

Cam 1:

Cam 2:

DEATH2000 · 09-02-2005, 11:50 AM

that sucks man. i hope theyll take em back and give you new ones.

**Spieluhr** · 09-02-2005, 01:17 PM

right about now I would be buying a gun.

**defkon99** · 09-02-2005, 01:52 PM

hey Sucks about the CAMS!

M50 manifold... what kind of Manifold do u have?
can we get an Engine Shot ?

**Rooz** · 09-02-2005, 02:06 PM

Ok, here is an update:

The cams aren't New or Used, they are re-manufactured (spelling)

KO called there provider, and he said that those "spots" are where they actually "grab" the cams with there instruments (something along those lines)

the guy promises that if ANYTHING goes wrong when I install the cams or later down the road because of that, he will cover everything.

Those spots should not and will not affect performance or engine wear going by what the guy said.

Now about the fact that KO told me these would be new...

They are going to give me a great deal on my next purchase from them. I told him I was leaning towards Eisenmann Racing exhaust, and the direct replacement coils (similar to the Plasma boosters). He said he will look into those, but he tried to talk me into getting an AA Exhaust.... I'll make a new thread on the new exhaust choice...

But so far my choices are:

A) Keep the current cams and meet my deadlines and get discounts from KO
B) Ship the cams back and get other cams.

As of right now, I am not sure, but since both KO and there provider tell me that if anyhting goes wrong they will cover it, does make me feel ok about these cams...

So I am somewhat leaning towards choice A...

Quote:

Ok, here is the deal, all cams , when you buy them from schrik are a regrind
of an original cam, now an M3 cam out of a car I understand it is "used and
you were under the impression you were getting brand new cams, and Denon did
not tell me what condition the cams were in except for that they are in
excellent condition.
Now I have sent those pictures to Denon and our rep at the BMW dealer, the
wear points you are showing are floating points where it not actually going
to touch any thing in the car, The cam will work just fine, the lobes have 0
damage and they do not change from being in a car before. I can get you
another set of cams in about another 8 business days but they will not be
any difference as far as performance or reliability, again a cam is a solid
piece of metal. So I can guaranty those cams if you want to put those it ,
or you can send them back and wait for another set. I do apologize for the
mix-up but I would like to help you and get your car running the way you
want it. Again I am willing to guaranty those cams in your car, meaning I
take the risk of improper installation as well. So let me know what you
would like to do.

If you have any questions, concerns, or would like to place an order, please
do not hesitate to email or call!