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E36 General discussion and technical help for (E36) 1992-1999 3 series cars. 318, 323, 325, 328.

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Old 07-15-2005, 09:36 AM   #1
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M50 Intake MF/Shrick Intake MF

Just a question for the E36 crowd...who here has installed an M50 Intake MF or the Shrick intake MF? Did you really notice a larger power difference in the higher RPM? Was it worth it?

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Old 07-15-2005, 04:39 PM   #2
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komodo just did. There are proveable gains. It is a must have.
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Old 07-16-2005, 02:36 AM   #3
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either pm komodo or something...he said he lost some torque and thats what really matters IMO...but he did gain more hp up top
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i'd pick torque over horsepower..... HP doesn't matter if you get hit by a school buy because you couldn't get going fast enough. HP is over rated. handling and low end torwue are much more important.

someone here on the forums has a quote in their sig that goes something along the lines of "HP just helps you hit the wall faster....one way or another you're still going to hit the wall"

IMO torque is more important unless you just have no horsepower in which case you have more problems than what manifold to use......
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Bah, I guess if I'm gonna do it I'm going to have to do cams at the same time....great concept...but NOOOO CAN'T SPEND MORE MONEY ON THE CAR!!! lol
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you will lose some low end for sure.. but the top end is great. When I raced 328i just like yours which had an intake, exhaust, etc he kept with me until the middle of 3rd gear and then it was bye bye.. it was like he was standing still...
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yeah if you do end up doing the manifold just balance it out with something for the bottom end! sure more $$ but who needs money anyways

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I did the m50 and I highly recommend doing it! I lost a bit of torque, but it was barely noticeable, but then I installed underdrive pulleys which made up for it. The gains up high are amazing! From about 3.5k to 6k there's a HUGE pull that wasn't there before. It gives your car more power at higher speeds too, like cruising along the freeway at 80, if you punch it you get a nice little kick to move forward, after you're already moving that fast. Sure you loose a little off the line (no joke, it's to the point where you barely notice it, if at all), but the gains up high are very worth it imo.
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very true. The pullies would do a nice job of countering this loss of torque.
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m3 cams or a 3.23 lsd would more than make up for the loss in torque. if you are going to get the manifold you should get cams at the same time
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whats the stock differential in a 98 or any 328is
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whats the stock differential in a 98 or any 328is
If it is a manual I believe it's a 2.91 or 2.93 (not sure about the last number but it doesn't matter).

If it is an automatic it's a 3.91.

A 96 to 99 m3 has a 3.23 which is a great swap option for a manual 328i or 328is.

I saw that in another forum you mentioned that you purchased a set of Bav Auto headers. IMO this is a much better alternative to the intake manifold. Comparable HP gains w/o the loss of low end torque.
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I saw that in another forum you mentioned that you purchased a set of Bav Auto headers. IMO this is a much better alternative to the intake manifold. Comparable HP gains w/o the loss of low end torque.
i thought higher flow headers are not required unless you are using FI. the stock headers are supposed to flow pretty well.
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i thought higher flow headers are not required unless you are using FI. the stock headers are supposed to flow pretty well.
If you have a turbo you won't have a header style exhaust manifold, your exhaust will flow through a turbo manifold and into a down pipe.

Adding headers in adition to a super charger would be great.

Think of it this way, the more exhaust gases you can get out of your car the better. High flow headers are shaped and coated for more efficient air flow (simmilar to a cat back exhaust). Thus you achieve hp and trq gains.

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