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E21, E30 General discussion and technical help for 1975-1991 3 series cars.

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Old 03-24-2006, 07:23 PM   #1
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SO i'm fucked, Please Help me!

Allright,

I am still trying to get this alen screw out, I drilled a pilot and was using a screw extractor (with a tap, by hand) and the screw extractor Broke (harder metal that I can't drill out), I'm now pretty pissed at myself (why didnt i just leave this one brake for someone else to fuck with), and Stuck. What are my options. because I dont think I can drive it anywhere (unless it someone can tell me its allright.

The rotor is off and I have my new one waiting to go until I can get the screw in there. What should I do.

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Old 03-24-2006, 07:31 PM   #2
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I don't know what to say. That does blow. Only thing is, last resort, bring it to a garage. You'll pay for it, but it'll be fixed, unless someone else knows how to take that bitch out.

Wasn't there a Craftsman extractor that was bit? Aren't those really strong? I really don't know... I'm a n00b at this one.

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Old 03-24-2006, 07:32 PM   #3
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Is my worst case senario, to get it taken to the dealer (can't drive it right?) and have them put a new hub on and the formentioned brake?
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Old 03-24-2006, 07:37 PM   #4
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Can you still stick on the wheel? Do you/parents have AAA/AARP? I know they have free towing within 50 to 100 miles (depending on your program).

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Old 03-24-2006, 07:42 PM   #5
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I can could put the wheel on but I would not have any brake on the left front, so i would not want to drive. No AAA/AARP either, Looks Like I just made an Expensive FUCK Up.

Here is what the hub looks like probably cost me about $130 and I dont know that I have the proper tools to remove the current one or to install a new one.
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Old 03-24-2006, 07:45 PM   #6
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dude, on the e36, its the same deal(im talking about the allen screw)

i tried using a screw extrator, it broke, they ALWAYS break.. but anyway, drill it, and take a chisel to it, thats the only i got all 4 out.. and have patience b/c ur gonna be hitting the hammer for a while
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Old 03-24-2006, 08:00 PM   #7
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I seriously doubt the allen screw is a vital part. All it does is align and hold the rotor to the hub flange, right? The lug bolts go through the rotor and into the flange, so it's not like the allen bolt is doing much. I say grind it down till you can get the new rotor on. I don't see why you couldn't drive without the allen bolt.
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Old 03-24-2006, 08:05 PM   #8
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^Can someone else COnfirm this because I like the point he makes
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Old 03-24-2006, 08:06 PM   #9
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Wait, is that the screw that's stuck? That tiny little shitty screw? I thought you said you got off the rotor?
If that is the case, I personally don't see the point of this. That little screw is not strong enough to be used as an effective braking instrument. It's just there to hold on the rotor while you put on the wheel. The massive bolts you use to secure the wheel to the hub go through the rotor securing it AND the wheel to the hub.

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Old 03-24-2006, 08:11 PM   #10
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I put the car back together it rolls, I didn't drive it any farther then my garage, I would like to fix this, but let me ask, can I drive 350 Miles with this, I have an appointment on thurs for my other complaint with the dealer. Or should I take it to the dealer thats near where I am now tomorrow and have them fix it?? Thanks for the help guys I really REALLY appreciate it, it has helped knowing you guys have been trying to help me out today. Now to continute with my shitty Day i'm going to work for 4 hours.

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Old 03-24-2006, 09:23 PM   #11
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^just bumping this so you can see my edited message. Thanks again, Dough, Xsperf, C1apton, and Dudesky and anyone else who posted in my other thread. Just answer my can I drive 350 miles question (probably more like 250)
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Well, to cover my ass, here is my understanding of that tiny screw... It has no bearing on the structural integrity of the braking system. As mentioned before, from how I've seen it on my car, it's there mearly to hold the disk on the hub as you change a tire or what not. Assuming you can put on the new rotor without any hassel, and the wheel can still be secured, I don't see a problem. But, Nick, I'm no mechanic. I'm not pretending to be one. I've done my own brakes, seen that shitty screw. I can look at the lugs that I put through the wheel and rotor and having five of them, can conclude that due to the diameter of each one, it can be assumed that they are the effective connection (only real connection) between the hub, rotor, and wheel.

The lifespan of the hub, rotor, wheel connection would be as long as the five lugs will last. Any reasonable mileage wouldn't do any harm. But mind you, that is assuming that the rotor is flush to the hub.

Buddy, goodluck, be careful, just incase....

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Old 03-25-2006, 12:59 AM   #13
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Thanks Dough, yea that was my logic when I put it back together tomorrow I'm gonna take the car out around home and see how it feels and decide what i'm going to do.
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Old 03-25-2006, 09:52 AM   #14
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What dudesky said and doughboy agreed with is my point of view. The lug nuts are torqued harder than it is anyways, why wouldn't the lug nuts hold it together better than the allen bolt?
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Old 03-25-2006, 09:54 AM   #15
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yea i agree as well it makes perfect sense and if I had stopped to think about it last night instead of being in an OH fuck mindset I would have been allright. Thanks again guys
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