Gas price! Oh please! - United Bimmer Community

witeshark · 07-12-2006, 12:44 AM

So, given that, and if the E87 1 series is not gonna get here, would a diesel Z4 work for you?

**Numark318i** · 07-12-2006, 01:25 AM

im down.

ugh....paid 3.25 at arco for premium today...i think ill just import a 1 series diesel and badge it as a 3 series and see what dmv has to say.

**doughboyea** · 07-12-2006, 08:44 AM

I would rather get a diesel 3-series.... the 320d right? Thier around in Europe, I think.

Dough

PS,

Just did a quick search on BMW UK and found these figures....
330d
231 hp.
369 lbft.
0-62mph in 6.7sec

Fuel consumption
City: 31.7mpg
Hwy: 55.4mpg
So with a 16.1 gal tank, you could technically go as far as 890mi on one tank fill... and your able to do that with an engine than can give you all that torque too.

I'd get that one... serve it up, Jet black, manual all the way.

**celsdogg** · 07-12-2006, 08:48 AM

a diesel z4? seems like an oxymoron. . .

witeshark · 07-12-2006, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by celsdogg

a diesel z4? seems like an oxymoron. . .

I don't think so any more. The latest diesels seem to have torque and efficiency to make the gas engine obsolete

**celsdogg** · 07-12-2006, 11:32 AM

^^^ true, but it just doesnt seem like it produces the same "high energy" spirit that a ICE would, i mean a 2 seater sport roadster/coupe that sounds like a jetta tdi or a school bus?

i dont know how to describe what im thinking. . . maybe some one will catch my drift

**dinan540** · 07-12-2006, 11:36 AM

I have to hope the 1 series M comes to the U.S. I would love that car for my DD.

craig · 07-12-2006, 12:58 PM

theres one problem, DIESEL IS MORE EXPENCIVE THEN GAS. so it wouldnt help worth shit.

**doughboyea** · 07-12-2006, 01:57 PM

Ah, umm... no. Currently, diesel is near or cheaper than gas. To put it more into perspective for your state:

From www.gasbuddy.com
Most expensive gas: $3.19 (for regular)
Most expensive diesel: $3.15

Cheapest gas: $2.72
Cheapest diesel: $2.86

For my state.....
Most expensive gas: $3.51 (for regular)
Most expensive diesel: $3.19

Cheapest gas: $2.84
Cheapest diesel: $2.67

Keep in mind... normally, diesel engines are able to get much better milage than a gas engine, and, for the most part are easier to maintain.

Example:
2004 VW Jetta
2.0L 4 cylinder GAS (115hp, 122 ft-lb) 31mpg, 450mi range max
1.9L 4 cylinder DIESEL (100hp, 177ft-lb) 46mpg, 667mi range max

**celsdogg** · 07-12-2006, 02:26 PM

around here diesel is a few cents more than 87 at some stations. it confuses me because it is refined less, right? at other stations it is cheaper than 87, and im not sure why, one way or the other.

but on the whole, even if diesel is a few cents more than regular, you get more miles out of one gallon on diesel than with regular, so cheaper nonetheless.

witeshark · 07-12-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by celsdogg

^^^ true, but it just doesnt seem like it produces the same "high energy" spirit that a ICE would, i mean a 2 seater sport roadster/coupe that sounds like a jetta tdi or a school bus?

i dont know how to describe what im thinking. . . maybe some one will catch my drift

I do, but I have read reviews in which testers are surprised by how the sound is less diesel sounding and more quiet then expected

**dinan540** · 07-12-2006, 04:17 PM

I wonder with a diesel if you can change the sound significantly with an exhaust, removing the resonators, and high flow cats.

witeshark · 07-13-2006, 12:47 AM

I don't think I'd try that, diesels rev lower

**Numark318i** · 07-13-2006, 12:55 AM

honestly..i would get a diesel if they were more available in teh states. Not much to choose from if ur comparing to Europe.

although if that happens our gas prices might go up more?
idk.

**TerryY** · 07-13-2006, 03:29 PM

When listing fuel mileages from the UK, Do remember that their Gallon has 5 quarts and ours only have 4 quarts.

That gives a statistically significant difference in mileage numbers. Still better than Gas though.

**Chris** · 07-13-2006, 09:14 PM

^^

Good point.