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**B_w.** · 04-23-2006, 02:20 PM

just picked it up yesterday

nick_318is · 04-23-2006, 02:42 PM

Nice Touareg

**BMWLotAttendant** · 04-23-2006, 02:44 PM

How do you like it?

Looks good.

That's what a girl that I'm talking to wants.

What packages does it have?

**celsdogg** · 04-23-2006, 02:46 PM

sa-weet!

how is the ride?

**B_w.** · 04-23-2006, 02:51 PM

its awesome. by the way its my mom's, not mine

the ride is great, the interior is excellent, its pretty quick for a big suv, and i like the looks. unfortunately i could not get her to look at a bmw x5

the vw seems like a steal considering it is almost the same as the porsche and costs a lot less. my mom did not care to spend the extra money just so she could have a porsche and 30 extra hp.

**celsdogg** · 04-23-2006, 02:58 PM

well, i believe they are in the same auto group anyway. . .

**B_w.** · 04-23-2006, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by celsdogg

well, i believe they are in the same auto group anyway. . .

the cayenne motor is tuned a little more, different wheels, and slightly different body. i cannot tell the difference between the vw and porsche interior

with the porsche you are paying a lot for the name.

Quote:

What packages does it have?

fully loaded

**Rooz** · 04-23-2006, 06:09 PM

Nice Touareg

"spelling?"

Storamin · 04-23-2006, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWLotAttendant

How do you like it?

Looks good.

That's what a girl that I'm talking to wants.

What packages does it have?

you said... package...

it's pretty much a porsche cayenne, anyways.

**BMWLotAttendant** · 04-23-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Storamin

you said... package...

it's pretty much a porsche cayenne, anyways.

no no no

:

Listen here, you always speak before you think.

Package #1 $2,100
Upgraded Sound System I
Bi-Xenon Headlamps (learn more)
Keyless Access
Memory Functions (learn more)
Power Adjustable Telescoping Steering Column (learn more)
Power Height Adjustable Front Seatbelts (learn more)

Package #2 $5,260
Package #1
DVD Based Navigation System (learn more)
Trunk-Mounted 6 Disc CD Changer (learn more)
Electronic Parking Assistance (learn more)

Package #3 $9,160
Package #2
Package #1
Wood Interior Upgrade (Myrtle or Vavona) (learn more)
Rear Differential Lock (learn more)

Package #4 $11,410
Package #3
Package #2
Package #1
4-Zone Climatronic® Air Conditioning (learn more)
Direct Tire Pressure Monitoring System (learn more)
Winter Package
Rear Center Armrest w/Load Through

I built one fully loaded for $56,830.

Cayenne's are much different, and wayyyy better IMO.

Nothing added....Porsches are higher.
The base Cayenne is $42,200
Cayenne S is $57,200
Cayenne Turbo is $90,200
Cayenne Turbo S is $111,600.

Sooo yeah.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Better luck next time.

**celsdogg** · 04-23-2006, 10:37 PM

ouch.

**TJsBimm** · 04-23-2006, 11:10 PM

Feels like someone's being told. Don't know much of the vw but heard it's nice.

**xsperf** · 04-23-2006, 11:28 PM

hahaha, roman just got pwnt

**B_w.** · 04-24-2006, 01:44 AM

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Cayenne's are much different, and wayyyy better IMO.

could you elaborate on that a bit. the vw is built off the cayenne chasis, the exteriors are slightly different, all the motors except for the turbo ones are the same. the v8 in this is the same as the v8 in the cayenne s, just detuned a little, 310 vs 340hp. i bet the only difference is in the software and a more restrictive intake. i think the wheels on the vw look better than the ones on the porsche. as far as i can tell the interior is the exact same. i test drove both and cannot tell the difference. the suspension in the porsche is probably a little more sport tuned just because it is a porsche.

the vw is practiaclly a rebadged porsche with enough little things changed so that they can call it something else and sell it for less. its the same way that some nissan's are practiaclly rebadged and sold as infinity's for more money. yes i agree that a cayenne is better, but not wayyy better and they are not way different. the changes are like the difference between a m and non m bmw.

**BMWLotAttendant** · 04-24-2006, 03:29 AM

Good point B w.

Allow me to explain my thoughts.

According to Wikipedia dictionary there are numerous styling, equipment and technical differences between the two vehicles.

And as you pointed out they share the same chasis, but some further reading lead me to understand that Audi was on the same band wagon.

Wikipedia says that "The Q7 is available now, sharing its platform with the VW Touareg and Porsche Cayenne. Based on the Pikes Peak quattro concept car, the Q7 is designed more for on-road use than its Volkswagen cousin. It lacks the Touareg's locking differentials and low-range transfer case but gains a third-row seating option."

Soooo

Since they all have the same chasis does that make them all the same. I should hope not. What makes them different?

The interior design, colors, wheels, options, and engines.

The Cayenne shares only its base engine with the Touareg, and Porsche's version is substantially modified.

With that, I didn't go in that depth as I wanted, but it seems to me that the Porsche would be on a higher standard...higher than the rest. VW is trying to expand their model line and who other to explore with other than Porsche...who makes very well high end sports coupes/convertibles. Since VW didn't have anything special to put in their engines, unlike Porsche who has the riduculous Carrera GT/911 for example to put into their SUV.
VW just found and modified their engines and the largest probably coming from their luxury sedan that tries to compete with BMWs 7-Series. Yeah right. Good luck with that.

Which leaves me to not forget about Audi's Q7. Nissan has some credibilty when it comes to engines. The 350Z and the G35 are pretty decent. They probably just used those engines with modifications as well as design interior, colors and option from their ever failing model of the Moreno, in which I wouldn't consider in a heart-beat as a personal SUV. Now, the Infinity FX, which owned by Nissan....is a step up IMO from the Moreno and similar in the bubble/oval look. I have driven one of these, the FX35 unfortunately but I was rather impressed. They used the G35s exaust and probably the engine as well. But one step closer to the top by modeling after Porsche and VW.

Audi is trying to get a new look for their SUVs, and who other to join in with than Porsche and VW. With the same bubble oval look, like Porsche, and VW...Audi is slowly learning. Audi is a good company too, competing with BMW helps. Their A4, S4, A6, and A8 are very nice places to start for Audi. I think they have may have something and perhaps overtake VW in this run for 2nd.

Annnnd, we also forgot to mention other models that aren't based on the same chasis. Mercedes-Benz M-Class, Lexus RX, Volvo XC90, BMWs X5, Land Rover Range Rover, Land Rover LR3, Escalade, and Denali.

But I won't go into that, because it isn't relevant to the discussion.

In retrospect, I think it all depends on each individuals persons tastes. I know that everybody is different, and from my view point, I would want more of a sporty SUV. Porsche grabs my attention first, but VW is trying to attract a different audience. Like for example. A good friend (in Seattle)...we were talking about cars and she wants something cute. Well minivans were in the converstaion and gradually switched to SUVs. She immediately said the VW Touareg. I rolled my eyes, being somewhat biased to the X5 4.8is told her my thoughts...and she begged to differ. VW has a different approach in trying to get luxury (unlike Lexus RX Series) and sportiness (unlike Porsche or BMW). Kind of in the middle scale.

So yeah, it all depends on what you want and what you are looking for in a SUV that appeals to you in your many choices of SUVs out there.