ok...heres the deal, if i do any more mods it would be strickly bolt on stuff. ya i could do the whole m50 mani thing, but then i would need software ect and its notsomething i really wanted to do. and yes, a full exhaust is probably the last thing i want to do... but are there any other companies that make headers and the mid-pipe for e36's besides the ones stated above. this is just preliminary i dont have ALL the money right now, i just wanted to see what my options were. thanks guys!