Im thinking the basket weaves are almost unbeatable. When bmw asked bbs to design a premium wheel for their cars, bbs really went over the top! 15+ years later and they still turn heads (when they are clean, which takes hours and lasts maybe 3 days...) <---- speaking of which, does anyone know of a better way to clean them? im tired of spending all saturday to clean them just to stand with my arms crossed and my head shaking from dis-satisfaction on wendsday.