yea, well i was kinda comparing it to an e36, i dont mind the looks as much, but i think a well maintained and tastefully modded e36 looks plenty better than an e46. and in terms of handling, i could out-handle my brother any day, before i got my car, i would jump in his car and say, wow this is nice, but now when i jump in his car i say, wow this thing is like a boat. his is automatic too, so that definitely kills it